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1 posted on 01/03/2007 4:15:57 AM PST by Thorin
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To: Thorin

And, some want this fool to run the country! THANKS, BUT NO THANKS!


2 posted on 01/03/2007 4:22:04 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Thorin
Yet, U.S. elites are pushing to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, which would require us to send our 82nd Airborne to defend Tiblisi.

No, Pat. It is the U.S. elites in the bowels of the Pentagon, State Department and Justice Department who leak secrets and undermine this country at every turn, and the U.S. elites in the media and academia who are the villains in this play.

4 posted on 01/03/2007 4:28:43 AM PST by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: Thorin

And US isolationism will allow the Chinese to lead the world.


5 posted on 01/03/2007 4:29:15 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Thorin
Why should China abandon a trade policy that has given her 9 percent growth for 20 years for a U.S. policy that has given us the largest trade deficits in history?

That deficit is denominated largely in U.S. dollars, which lose value to inflation. If the Chinese displace us, as Pat contends, their little stockpile will be devalued so quickly it won't be funny at all.

Old Europe is reveling in our misfortunes.

Old Europe is also gasping for life as it's slowly choked to death by invading Muslims.

America may yet be the world's strongest nation, but our dominance is detested, our leadership is no longer wanted and our people are weary of playing Atlas.

Then, dear Mr. Buchanan, please explain why everyone in the world STILL! wants so badly to come here that they will risk life, limb, and everything just to set foot on our shores?

. . .

Mr. Buchanan has been smoking the crack that the MSM has fed him for far too long. Yes, things aren't perfect, but it could be much much worse.

7 posted on 01/03/2007 4:36:13 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: Thorin
Pat Buchanan, the eternally optomistic isolationist, has written about his most fanciful wet dream. An America which vibrates no longer to lead the world p[olitically, socially and economically. China did not build herself. We helped her. We do not expect thanks, but we do expect reciprocity in trade and a floating of the yuan, which is now artificially pegged at too low a value.

We do not seek to run the world, but when Islamofascist prigs fund raise from our own Islamic citizens , and then use the money to fund a plan which flies 3 planes into US buildings, killing more men women and children than were killed in Pearl Harbor, then we will go after the POSs until every last one of them is pushing up daisies, or whatever infernal flowers grow in the deserts where these rats are to be found. As usual Pat, you are the anti-grist. The person who grinds away at what America is, perhaps that is your only talent, to remind us in direct opposition as to who we are, and who you are not.

8 posted on 01/03/2007 4:36:44 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Thorin
Interventionism has failed us. Americans are groping toward a new foreign policy that puts America first and a trade policy that puts Americans first... We don't have to run the world. Divestiture is an option.

How vague. People should know the Devil is in the details. It seems to me any study of history demonstrates that Americans have suffered when they've tried to shut out or ignore the rest of the world. Does Pat think that MADD will protect us against numerous Islamic missiles, the potential of numerous Latin American missiles? Not to mention the danger of biological WMD? In today's world I don't believe a castle wall can be built that is strong to keep those dangers out. Further, it seems to me that a world that is not propped up by the tactical and strategic use of American money will turn to militarism as a way to employ and feed its peoples. And the day always comes when hungry people grow tired of robbing each other and start eyeing that "shining city on the hill".

9 posted on 01/03/2007 4:47:22 AM PST by rhombus
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Unfortunately, when the world has lent you some 40 TRILLION dollars...you're expected to do more than just lay back by the side of the pool, with a margharita and Tivo....an crticize the rest of the world.


http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat-a.htm


10 posted on 01/03/2007 4:48:55 AM PST by mo
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To: Thorin

Old nutty Pat...at it again.


11 posted on 01/03/2007 4:50:07 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Heaven is home...I am just TDY here!)
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To: Thorin

does Mr Rumsfeld know he was "fired" ?


14 posted on 01/03/2007 4:53:14 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Thorin
We are living in a dream world.

No, Pat, you're the one in dream state, now roll over and go back to sleep.

15 posted on 01/03/2007 4:55:39 AM PST by TADSLOS (Mohammed was the L. Ron Hubbard of his time.)
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To: A. Pole; hedgetrimmer

ping


18 posted on 01/03/2007 5:30:16 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Thorin
We can hide under the bed and wait for the bombs to drop!

No wonder Pat is the darling of the America hating leftist media.

19 posted on 01/03/2007 5:35:51 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Thorin

If there was a defining moment in 2006, it was "macaca" and Mark Foley's instant messages to teenagers. That's all we heard, over and over. The election of 2006 had little to do with Iraq.


20 posted on 01/03/2007 5:37:40 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Thorin

21 posted on 01/03/2007 5:45:09 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: Thorin
the public firing of Donald Rumsfeld, just hours after the Republican rout of Nov. 7.

Typical Buchanan crap... and he starts off with a factual error (go figure). Rumsfeld resigned prior to the election, but Bush held off the announcement until afterwards.

22 posted on 01/03/2007 5:47:55 AM PST by kevkrom (WARNING: The above post may contain sarcasm... if unsure, please remember to use all precautions)
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To: Thorin

Pat Buchanan doesn't have to run the U.S.


24 posted on 01/03/2007 5:55:30 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Thorin

There has to be a fine line where, the US can be a leader in the world economic system while, being a shining beacon for less fortunate countries, without sacrificing our country's sovereignty and basic rights of it's people.


25 posted on 01/03/2007 5:56:33 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: Thorin

Pat Buchanan is like a broken record.

I read the first paragraph and said, "Who wrote this? Pat Buchanan?"

Then I looked up for the author.

Yup. Pat Buchanan.


27 posted on 01/03/2007 6:22:59 AM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Thorin

America will never be truly free until every corner of the world has real democracy. Because every tyrant that lives, every person in bondage, every oppressed minority will somehow, some way, come around to haunt us.

Pat Buchanan is of the old American tradition that America is a world unto itself, and we neither need, nor want, nor should have anything to do with anyone outside our borders. The rest of the world can go to Hell and it is none of our business. Build a giant fence around the totality of our borders and pretend they do not exist.

It doesn't matter that even a child can see the glaring stupidity of such beliefs. Pat is a true believer. He will not, and perhaps he cannot, fathom America as part of the world. It is too large and menacing, filled with old world ghosts, royalists, dictators, and people who seem all too willing to be subjugated to pagan gods.

Why should America help those who do not help themselves?

If you were to ask the World War II generation in the 1950s what enemy would strike America as its "next Pearl Harbor", how many if even allowed to guess 100 times, would suggest fanatical Muslims? Yet they were often the enemy of the British Empire, why shouldn't they threaten the Pax Americana?

But from Pat's point of view, if America had just used its own oil instead of buying it from Arabs, perhaps 911 would have never happened. Shouldn't have let any foreigners into the US in the first place. No need, especially after the Cold War was over.

But back to what I said at first. From the very start of the US, our founding fathers sought to spread the democratic revolution around the planet. They saw it as a revolution, and even then they knew that the only nations the US could ever truly call friend would have to be true democracies.

Because unless they are democracies, you cannot trust them, ever.


33 posted on 01/03/2007 7:16:10 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: Thorin
Why should nations that are succeeding adopt the policies of nations that are failing, and wailing?

BUMP!

40 posted on 01/03/2007 7:47:06 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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