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To: bondserv
1. We do not know enough truth to discern the totality of our reality. This is why scientific conclusions are continually changing.

Yes, that's what called new discoveries. Scientific conclusions from 1000 years ago thought the body was made of up of the four elements. Gee, don't you miss those old days? Should we go back to that? Okay, I'm 14% fire, 63% water, 12% air, and 11% earth. Woo-hoo!! That is so much simpler than trying to understand those nasty old vessels and arteries. Go anti-science!!

And yet new scientific conclusions show the complexities of our bodies, the world around us. And this is where faith comes in for me. I realize where science ends, faith begins. But my faith doesn't blind me to what science has shown me to get to that point.

3. Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful, but is not something you want to affect your worldview.

Oh goody, now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to float away. I may just float to London for a day. I'm not letting the discovery of gravity affect my worldview.....And I'll send my next missive to you by stone tablet if that's okay as well. Don't want science, or the advancement thereof, to affect your worldview

Please realize that many of these folks are investing their entire hope in the findings of science.

And please realize there are just as many folks that view the world solely through the Bible. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but God gave us eyes, ears, minds, etc. to learn more about His creation. Not to suspend all rational thought just to fit the entire world into what someone imagines they believe are the physics of the Bible.

Based on this ill-founded investment, fellowship with our Creator becomes a myth and the abundant life we were created to enjoy gets robbed from them by the lie

Not at all. It helps me appreciate God even more. It allows me to understand what love was put into all of creation. The time it took, the relationships, the changes, all of it. To get to this point in history that science is just beginning to grasp a more indepth understanding of the world around us and what we have been given

71 posted on 01/03/2007 11:58:47 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
Perspective my friend.

Science is cool in my book. I leaned in that direction in college and in my career. It's interesting and fun. A God given universe in which we can enjoy discovering His handywork, tainted by the curse as it may be.

It's helped give some people a few more years of life, often with less physical pain, through amazing medical discoveries.

It's given us appliances which make life less about food preparation and preservation.

It's given us all a device to talk to one another from anywhere at anytime, while listening to music in the other ear.

It's given us the ability to cruise around the planet fairly rapidly.

And we can see cool formations out in space we couldn't see before.

However, science has nothing to do with character growth, wisdom or goodness. In fact in the last century, science has been used as a tool to inflict incredible destruction. And one could rightfully argue that the philosophy of those who regard naturalistic materialism as the foundation of truth in our reality, often become bent on conquering the world using heinous methods. This conference exposes those tendencies.

Militaries based on Christian principles produce troops like those we have in Iraq and reject behaviors like those in Abu Grab and with those Crusaders who crossed the line of righteous actions.

Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful, but not something you want to base your worldview.

Perspective!

72 posted on 01/03/2007 1:11:55 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: billbears; bondserv
bondserv:1. We do not know enough truth to discern the totality of our reality. This is why scientific conclusions are continually changing.

billbears:Yes, that's what called new discoveries. Scientific conclusions from 1000 years ago thought the body was made of up of the four elements. Gee, don't you miss those old days? Should we go back to that? Okay, I'm 14% fire, 63% water, 12% air, and 11% earth. Woo-hoo!! That is so much simpler than trying to understand those nasty old vessels and arteries. Go anti-science!!

Boy, that's quite a stretch. How'd you get all that from bondserv's two statements? Or are you under the delusion that we know everything already?

74 posted on 01/03/2007 1:18:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: billbears
Scientific conclusions from 1000 years ago thought the body was made of up of the four elements.

And, in 3006, what will TODAY's 'science' appear to be?

Witchcraft as well??

86 posted on 01/03/2007 8:21:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: billbears; bondserv
Okay, I'm 14% fire, 63% water, 12% air, and 11% earth.

And now we know the exact elemental percentages contained in male bovine fecal matter.

127 posted on 01/04/2007 7:52:11 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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