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To: billbears; Coyoteman; Elsie

Three things.

1. We do not know enough truth to discern the totality of our reality. This is why scientific conclusions are continually changing.

2. Most modern scientists disregard the supernatural, so their conclusions are incorrect.

3. Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful, but is not something you want to affect your worldview.

Please realize that many of these folks are investing their entire hope in the findings of science. Their value from life is derived from the knowledge they pass on to the next generation. Based on this ill-founded investment, fellowship with our Creator becomes a myth and the abundant life we were created to enjoy gets robbed from them by the lie.


70 posted on 01/03/2007 11:21:51 AM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: bondserv
1. We do not know enough truth to discern the totality of our reality. This is why scientific conclusions are continually changing.

Yes, that's what called new discoveries. Scientific conclusions from 1000 years ago thought the body was made of up of the four elements. Gee, don't you miss those old days? Should we go back to that? Okay, I'm 14% fire, 63% water, 12% air, and 11% earth. Woo-hoo!! That is so much simpler than trying to understand those nasty old vessels and arteries. Go anti-science!!

And yet new scientific conclusions show the complexities of our bodies, the world around us. And this is where faith comes in for me. I realize where science ends, faith begins. But my faith doesn't blind me to what science has shown me to get to that point.

3. Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful, but is not something you want to affect your worldview.

Oh goody, now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to float away. I may just float to London for a day. I'm not letting the discovery of gravity affect my worldview.....And I'll send my next missive to you by stone tablet if that's okay as well. Don't want science, or the advancement thereof, to affect your worldview

Please realize that many of these folks are investing their entire hope in the findings of science.

And please realize there are just as many folks that view the world solely through the Bible. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but God gave us eyes, ears, minds, etc. to learn more about His creation. Not to suspend all rational thought just to fit the entire world into what someone imagines they believe are the physics of the Bible.

Based on this ill-founded investment, fellowship with our Creator becomes a myth and the abundant life we were created to enjoy gets robbed from them by the lie

Not at all. It helps me appreciate God even more. It allows me to understand what love was put into all of creation. The time it took, the relationships, the changes, all of it. To get to this point in history that science is just beginning to grasp a more indepth understanding of the world around us and what we have been given

71 posted on 01/03/2007 11:58:47 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: bondserv
Their value from life is derived from the knowledge they pass on to the next generation.

And yet they demand that their colleagues depart from that search for knowledge in order to go on a jihad against faith.

126 posted on 01/04/2007 7:46:59 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: bondserv
1. We do not know enough truth to discern the totality of our reality. This is why scientific conclusions are continually changing.

2. Most modern scientists disregard the supernatural, so their conclusions are incorrect.


Excellent observation! Our life is filled with both the natural and the super-natural. If we rely only on the findings of those who ignore the super-natural, then we are only getting part of the story.

I was just trying to explain to my son that value of attitude when wrestling. It's not something that can be measured, yet it is probably more important then just being in shape and knowing your moves. If you step on the mat expecting to lose, guess what? You probably will.

Yet in life, we have some people telling us, "If I can't measure it, then it isn't real."

Sincerely
151 posted on 01/04/2007 11:01:07 AM PST by ScubieNuc (I have no tagline. I wish I did. If I did, it would probably be too long and not fit completely on t)
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