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Posted on 01/02/2007 7:23:18 PM PST by nwctwx
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I think it was one of President Bush's better speeches. I am not sure the plan will work. Most of what I have read on the subject would indicate that more troops are needed for the desired short term affect. The short term is obviously important for the long term... I do hope there is a noticeable difference. I think it's good that the administration has tried to explain the region a little more and exactly what is at stake. It's surprising to talk to people who still don't seem to get what failure in Iraq means.
We have an event analyzing the speech tomorrow morning at work. I will try to remember to post excerpts if I have a minute. I am also going to be in on a state dept conference call about Foreign Policy in Iraq Friday, will post notes from that if allowed.
Thanks for pointing out that thread, I would have missed it otherwise.
Thanks NW, will look forward to your posts.
No problem.
I think I forgot to bring it over here, but anyway I thought to myself at the time, "Who can possibly be surprised that AQ is in Lebanon?"
Then it occurred to me that the lame stream media might be surprised at this, so thought I would update FR and Google picks up all of the FR posts, or so it seems.
"The short term is obviously important for the long term..."
I agree.
"I am also going to be in on a state dept conference call about Foreign Policy in Iraq Friday, will post notes from that if allowed."
That would be neato.
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"Leader of Algerian Group Vows Obedience to bin Laden in New Video"
ABC ^ | January 10, 2007 | Hoda Osman
Posted on 01/10/2007 3:23:52 PM PST by TexKat
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Armed Islamic Group (GIA)/Salafi Group for Call and Combat (GSPC) Extremist group that aims to replace the secular Algerian regime with an Islamic state. Activities: Between 1992 and 1998 the group massacred an estimated 100,000 civilians; violence resumed again in 2001. - Source: U.S. Department of State - Source: U.S. Department of State
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Armed Islamic Group (GIA) (also known as Groupe islamique armé (GIA))------- "Regulations Establishing a List of Entities ( C-46 -- SOR/2002-284 )," [For Canada's criminal code] .Source: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/SOR-2002-284/text.html, Updated to April 30, 2003 [Unofficial docs]
1991 : (ALGERIA, IRAQ & GIA - See GSPC) IT IS A CURIOUS FACT, then, that Saddam Hussein provided financial assistance to the GIA [Armed Islamic Group] when it was in its earliest stages of germination. There is still much we do not know about Saddam's relationship with al Qaeda's Algerian affiliate. But, Iraq's relationship with the GIA warrants further investigation given its tortuous history. THE ROOTS OF SADDAM'S RELATIONSHIP with the GIA trace back to the 1991 Gulf War. The group's early history is particularly useful in understanding why Saddam would offer the GIA his support.
As the [Gulf] war approached, Saddam sought and received support from a conspicuous group of Islamist radicals. Among them was the Sudanese leader Hassan al-Turabi and an Algerian Islamist named Abbas Madani [ leader of Algeria's Islamic Salvation Front (the "FIS")], both of whom traveled to Baghdad in the months prior to the war and declared their support for Saddam.
Madani was then the leader of Algeria's Islamic Salvation Front (the "FIS"), which was a consortium of four Islamist parties formed to obtain democratically-elected political power. Madani was somewhat more tempered in his support for Saddam than his cohort, Ali Benhadj, because he feared (correctly) that support for Saddam would end Saudi financial support for the FIS. Benhadj overcame Madani's reticence, however, and moved the FIS firmly into Saddam's camp. According to Gilles Keppel (Jihad, The Trail of Political Islam), Benhadj--who was accompanied by "a detachment of Afghan-garbed jihadists fresh from Peshawar"--took to the streets and "delivered a harangue in front of the [Algerian] Ministry of Defense in which he demanded the formation of a corps of volunteers to join the forces of Saddam Hussein."
Writing in Al Qaeda's Armies, Middle East expert Jonathan Schanzer explains that as the Gulf War neared the "FIS became increasingly pro-Iraq and anti-U.S., as seen through their slogans, protests, and even training camps for volunteers to fight for Saddam Hussein's Iraq. The U.S. conflict with Iraq was a powerful symbol of FIS's soaring popularity."
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
1994 : (CIA CONVINCED THAT "CONSIDERABLE SUMS" OF MONEY , SOME FROM IRAQ, WAS GOING TO THE GIA [later the GSPC] IN ALGERIA THROUGH BIN LADEN) In a USA Today article from December 2001, Stanley Bedlington, a senior analyst in the CIA's counterterrorism center until he retired in 1994, explained, "We were convinced that money from Iraq was going to bin Laden, who was then sending it to places that Iraq wanted it to go." He added, "There certainly is no doubt that Saddam Hussein had pretty strong ties to bin Laden while he was in Sudan, whether it was directly or through (Sudanese) intermediaries. We traced considerable sums of money going from bin Laden to the GIA in Algeria. We believed some of the money came from Iraq."...
Later, in an interview with THE WEEKLY STANDARD's Stephen Hayes, [Stanley] Bedlington elaborated on the [Iraq/bin Laden] relationship. "Osama bin Laden had established contact with the GIA," Bedlington explained, "Saddam was using bin Laden to ship funds to his own contacts through the GIA."
THE EXTENT of this financial arrangement is not clear. Declassifying the evidence of Saddam's financial relationship with bin Laden collected by the CIA in the early 1990s, as cited by [Stanley] Bedlington, would be a good start to answering these questions. It is likely, however, that we will never know the true extent of Saddam's support for the GIA. This is particularly troublesome since the GIA went on to become one of al Qaeda's most prolific affiliates; a brief review of the terrorist dossier compiled by the GIA and its descendant, the GSPC, demonstrates that further investigation of Saddam's support for the group is warranted.
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
1990s : (ALGERIAN TERRORIST GROUP GIA RECEIVES AID & TRAINING FROM AL QAEDA; GIA ALSO ESTABLISHES A STRONG PRESENCE IN EUROPE) "The Islamists [GIA] were not alone in their violent struggle against the secular government [of Algeria]. Throughout the 1990s they received financial and logistical support from al Qaeda, as hundreds of Algerian militants trained in al Qaeda training camps in Sudan and Afghanistan. And while battling the secular government at home, the GIA established a strong presence in Europe, where its cells interacted with other Islamist groups and provided the militants fighting in Algeria with money, weapons and false documents," [...Lorenzo Vidino explained ...before Congress's Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation [before August 2005]
Indeed, the GIA's strong presence in Western Europe played a vital role in al Qaeda's planning and execution of a number attacks. One such incident proved to be an eerie forerunner of the events of September 11, 2001. Four GIA terrorists hijacked an Air France flight leaving Algiers in December 1994. Their goal was to force the pilot to fly the plane into the Eiffel Tower. Their plan failed when the plane landed in Marseille and French Special Forces overtook it, killing the hijackers in the process.
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
DECEMBER 1994 : (GIA TERRORISTS HIJACK AN AIR FRANCE FLIGHT WITH INTENTIONS OF FLYING IT TO PARIS, FRANCE AND PLOWING IT INTO THE EIFFEL TOWER - See GIA/GSPC, ALGERIA, IRAQ, AL QAEDA) Indeed, the GIA's strong presence in Western Europe played a vital role in al Qaeda's planning and execution of a number attacks. One such incident proved to be an eerie forerunner of the events of September 11, 2001. Four GIA terrorists hijacked an Air France flight leaving Algiers in December 1994. Their goal was to force the pilot to fly the plane into the Eiffel Tower. Their plan failed when the plane landed in Marseille and French Special Forces overtook it, killing the hijackers in the process.
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
1998 : (ALGERIA : NOW UNPOPULAR GIA TERRORISTS RENAME THEIR GROUP THE SALAFI GROUP FOR PREACHING AND COMBAT aka GSPC - See GIA/GSPC, ALGERIA, IRAQ, AL QAEDA) By 1998, however, support for the [GIA terrorist] group within Algeria began to wane after years of brutal attacks on civilians, so one of the GIA's former leaders reconstituted the group as the Salafi Group for Preaching and Combat (the "GSPC"). The GSPC subsumed much of the GIA's international network and terrorists operating within the GSPC's sphere continued to assault the western world.
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
DECEMBER 1999 : (GSPC LINKED TO THE LAX MILLENIUM PLOT - See Ressam, GIA/GSPC, ALGERIA, IRAQ, AL QAEDA) Members of the GSPC have been connected to terrorist plots and attacks in Belgium, Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Southeast Asia, and elsewhere, several of which are particularly noteworthy. The aforementioned plot on LAX at the turn of the new millennium is thought to have been spawned within the GSPC's Canadian presence, which it inherited from the GIA.
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
2001 summer : (G8 ASSASSINATION PLOT AGAINST BUSH - LINKED TO GSPC CELL IN EUROPE? - - See GIA/GSPC, ALGERIA, IRAQ, AL QAEDA) According to Lorenzo Vidino, "A GSPC cell in Europe is believed to have planned to kill President Bush at the G8 meeting in Genoa in the summer of 2001."
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
SEPTEMBER 9, 2001 : (AFGHANISTAN : GSPC PROVIDES PASSPORTS TO THE ASSASSINS WHO MURDERED NORTHERN ALLIANCE LEADER AHMAD MASSOUD - - See GIA/GSPC, ALGERIA, IRAQ, AL QAEDA) According to Schanzer, two members of the GSPC provided passports to the assassins of bin Laden's main nemesis within Afghanistan, Ahmad Shah Massoud, just two days prior to September 11, 2001. "Massoud's assassination," Schanzer notes, "was likely designed to weaken the Northern Alliance with the full expectation that the U.S. would require its help in the post-September 11 invasion of Afghanistan."
"Iraq and Al Qaeda - The Algerian Connection : Why did Saddam financially support an al Qaeda affiliate in Algeria? ," by Thomas Joscelyn, The Weekly Standard, 08/03/2005 12:00:00 AM, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/919kltpp.asp
Now stick a set of donkey ears on your head and click your heels together three times and chant "There is no connection between Iraq and al Qaeda and 9/11... there is no connection..."
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Abd al Hadi al Iraqi
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Full Name: Nashwan Abdulrazaq Abdulbaqi
Aliases: al-Hadi al-Iraqi, Abu Abdallah
Nationality: Iraqi
Age: 35 to 40 years old
Place of Birth: Northern Mosul
Military Experience: Major in Saddam Husseins army
Eye Color: Green/blue/hazel
Hair Color: Brown
Height: 511 (180 cm)
Weight: 220 lbs. (100 kg)
Comments: Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi has a mustache and a long, heavy beard that is starting to gray. He has a fair complexion.
Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi is one of Usama bin Ladens top global deputies, personally chosen by bin Laden to monitor al Qaeda operations in Iraq. Al-Hadi was the former Internal Operations Chief for al Qaeda. He has been associated with numerous attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan and has been known to facilitate communication between al Qaeda in Iraq and al Qaeda. Al-Hadi rose to the rank of Major in Saddam Husseins army before moving to Afghanistan to fight against the Soviet Union. He has a reputation for being a skilled, intelligent, and experienced commander and is an extremely well-respected al Qaeda leader. He has commanded numerous terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. Al-Hadi is reportedly still in contact with Usama bin Laden.
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"Moroccan source: Terrorist cell reveals plans for establishing Al-Qaeda in North African countries"
08/12/2005
By Ahmad Al-Arqam
Asharq Al-Awsat, Rabat -
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The third message sought to establish an Al-Qaeda organization in the Arab Maghreb countries similar to that in Iraq and to unite the North Africans of Europe.
The security investigations showed that the methodology behind ensuring the plan's success was based on attracting volunteers and sending them to Algeria to undergo military training in the GSPC's camps. They would be trained in the use of weapons and the manufacturing of explosives. Furthermore, they would take part in the Algerian group's operations against the Algerian security forces. Volunteers would be sent to Syria after having completed this training to set up a base on Syrian soil, and to enter Iraq to carry out suicide operations.
The same investigations also indicated that the Moroccan volunteers would return to Morocco after completing their military tasks in the Middle East and become sleeper cells waiting for instructions from Al-Qaeda to carry out terrorist acts targeting the security and intelligence centers, parliament, tourist establishments, naval and commercial ships, and foreign interests, especially those of Jews.
According to the plan, Al-Qaeda's terrorist cell was planning to launch its operations in either Morocco or Algeria and if successful, would have called itself "Qaedat al-Jihad in the Arab Maghreb Countries".
A Moroccan security source said that common method of the extremist religious groups is to attract religiously committed youths and teach them the methods of terrorists. These start with meetings held in various places to watch videos and hear tapes talking about the suffering of Muslims and Arabs in Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, and other countries. Once they have absorbed these ideas, the youths are sent to camps for quasi-military training and in the end, are used as human weapons to carry out the plans of the international terrorist organizations."
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Radical Islams War Against the West to be screened in Ottawa
JudeoScope ^ | Wednesday 10 January 2007
Posted on 01/10/2007 9:16:54 PM PST by PRePublic
Radical Islams War Against the West to be screened in Ottawa
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Wednesday 10 January 2007
Radical Islams War Against the West to be screened in Ottawa
According to the Montreal Muslim News site, Obssession. Radical Islams War Against the West, will be screened in an Ottawa movie theatre on January 29, 2007.
Unsurprisingly, the MMN site - which has a history of promoting conspiracy theories disculpating radical Islamists for the 9-11 attacks - takes issue with the film calling it hate filled and Islamaphobic, despite the fact the film merely examines radical Islamist ideology, its profound enmity towards non-Muslims and its deliberate attacks on harmless civilians, all the while being careful not to create any amalgam between radical Islamism and mainstream Muslims.
The MMN site, which claims it received the announcement from a Jewish distribution list, further asks Why is a Jewish organization promoting such a vile film?. Well, if anything is vile about the film, it is the chilling anti-Jewish and anti-Western sermons documented in the film.
Though we are no fans of the movie, the over-dramatic musical score and editing annoy us profoundly, it presents documented footage and credible research on the roots and ambitions of radical Islamism and Jihadism.
To find out more about the film: www.obsessionthemovie.com
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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 · Last updated 8:46 p.m. PT
Defense workers warned about spy coins
By TED BRIDIS
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
WASHINGTON --
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In a U.S. government report, it said the mysterious coins were found planted on U.S. contractors with classified security clearances on at least three separate occasions between October 2005 and January 2006 as the contractors traveled through Canada."
ARTICLE SNIPPET: ""What's in the report is true," said Martha Deutscher, a spokeswoman for the security service. "This is indeed a sanitized version, which leaves a lot of questions.""
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Top suspects, according to intelligence and technology experts: China, Russia or even France - all said to actively run espionage operations inside Canada with enough sophistication to produce such technology.
The Canadian Security Intelligence Service said it knew nothing about the coins."
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"Winning: Let 'Em Loose (Iraq, War on Terror -- gloves off)"
Investors' Business Daily ^ | Jan. 10, 2007 | IBD
Posted on 01/10/2007 11:12:47 PM PST by FairOpinion
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"EIGHT TERRORISTS KILLED; SIX WEAPONS CACHES DESTROYED"
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"Clearing operations continue in Turki Village (snuffing the jihadis)"
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"Nato kills 150 Taleban fighters"
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"Democrats ready to fight new war plan"
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Australia 'a convict nation of liars' (according to Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilali)
news.com.au ^ | 11th January 2007
Posted on 01/11/2007 12:22:13 AM PST by naturalman1975
CONTROVERSIAL Islamic cleric Taj al-Din al-Hilali has reportedly claimed Muslims have more right to be in Australia than people of Anglo-Saxon descent because their ancestors were not convicts.
Anglo-Saxon Australians had arrived on convict ships, he said, "while we (Muslims) paid for our tickets".
Sheik Hilali also described westerners as "the world's biggest liars" and said there was a media conspiracy against him.
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Ethiopia - Ex-dictator Mengistu sentenced in absentia to life in prison for genocide
AFP via translation | January 11, 2007
Posted on 01/11/2007 1:21:23 AM PST by HAL9000
The Ethiopian ex-dictator Mengistu condemned to the prison with life for genocide
Addis Ababa - the ex-dictator Ethiopian Marxist Mengistu Hailé Mariam, found guilty of genocide during red Terror, was condemned to the prison with life by contumacy Thursday by the federal high court of Ethiopia, brought back a journalist of AFP.
The Court decided to condemn the culprit number one to the prison with life, declared judge Nur Mohamed in connection with Mengistu Hailé Mariam.
Colonel Mengistu, which lives in exile in Zimbabwe since its mode was reversed in 1991, had been recognized guilty on December 12 by contumacy of genocide by Ethiopian justice for the crimes committed during red Terror (1977-1978).
The lawsuit of the red négus, nickname given to colonel Mengistu who directed Ethiopia of 1977 to 1991, had started 10 years ago.
Mr. Mengistu had taken the head of the mode Ethiopian militaro-Marxist, on February 3, 1977, at the time of a bloody coup d'etat which ensured the control of Derg to him, military council trained by officers directing the country since the fall of the emperor Hailé Sélassié, in 1974.
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Special Dispatch Series - No. 1419
January 11, 2007 No.1419
"Sa'd Al-Hariri: Iran is Playing a Dangerous Role in Lebanon"
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In aninterview with Algerian TV, Sa'd Al-Hariri, chairman of the Al-Mustaqbal faction in Lebanon and one of the leaders of the March 14 Forces, accused Hizbullah of being a militia taking orders from Iran. Al-Hariri, son of assassinated former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Al-Hariri, claimed that the Lebanese opposition's decision to take to the streets of Beirut had been made based on instructions from Syria and Iran, and with the aim of preventing the establishment of the international court to rule on the Al-Hariri assassination.
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"Saving Lebanon"
By Joseph Puder
FrontPageMagazine.com | January 11, 2007
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "How to keep Lebanons freedom and democracy alive was the subject of a conference held at the Hudson Institute offices in Washington, D.C., on Thursday, January 4, 2007. Merav Wurmser, a Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute, moderated the conference and opened the discussion by asserting, In the current situation, Lebanons freedom is being threatened. Hezbollah has been strengthened and a stronger Hezbollah is a stronger Iran."
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