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Letting go of holds (In US Senate)
LA Times ^ | 2 January 2006 | Staff

Posted on 01/02/2007 6:11:55 AM PST by shrinkermd

...A senator can frustrate the will of the Senate by using a "hold," which allows any senator to block a vote on a nominee or piece of legislation. The practice is indefensible even when asserted on behalf of a worthy cause, and even when a senator is open, as Brownback was, about his obstructionism. Rooted in tradition and Senate rules that often require unanimous consent for business to proceed, the hold undermines the principle of majority rule even more than its procedural kissing cousin, the filibuster.

Brownback's hold on Michigan Appeals Court Judge Janet Neff, who was nominated for a federal district judgeship, was an especially obnoxious use of the procedure. Brownback is fixated on the fact that Neff attended and spoke at a ceremony in 2002 at which the daughter of the judge's next-door neighbor exchanged (legally nonbinding) vows with another woman.

But if Brownback's use of the hold is wrong, so is its use by other senators. Reformers, led by Sens. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), are proposing to do away with secret holds, which were supposed to end under an agreement between Democratic and Republican leaders in 1999. The theory behind requiring senators to admit they were placing holds was that they would be embarrassed into giving them up. But, far from being shamed, senators have trumpeted their holds in press releases, as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Patty Murray (D-Wash.) did last year when they placed a hold that delayed the confirmation of the chairman of the Food and Drug Administration. That hold was designed to pressure the FDA into approving the over-the-counter sale of the Plan B emergency contraceptive.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: holds; senate; togo
The editorial concludes with a plea to eliminate "holds" as a means of delaying or defeating bills and nominees.
1 posted on 01/02/2007 6:11:56 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

"Hold" should be unconstitutional; one person denying the will of the majortiy.


2 posted on 01/02/2007 6:14:40 AM PST by WayneH
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To: shrinkermd
Majority rule? What does the LA Slimes know (or care) about "majority rule"? Riddle us this,LA Slimes....why,when the RAT Party was in the minority in the Senate,did it take 60 votes to get a nominee confirmed?
3 posted on 01/02/2007 6:16:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: shrinkermd

The LA Slimes cares about holds now that the 'rats have majority control.


4 posted on 01/02/2007 6:19:40 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: shrinkermd

Oh yes, now that the Dems are running things, the Senate shouldn't have "holds." During the past 12 years, it was SOP for Dems to put them on Pres. Bush's nominees. Nice try, lap-dog media. The GOP survivors in the Senate need to employ every obstructionist rule that the Dems used the past 12 years to thwart the will of the majority.


5 posted on 01/02/2007 6:20:26 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: WayneH

The practice of "holds" reflects the utter arrogance of the members of the Senate. Elected to do the business of the people, their self-appointed role, once elected, is to pursue their own insatiable appetite for power, self-promotion and self-preservation. This is yet another reason for term limits.


6 posted on 01/02/2007 6:21:40 AM PST by magoo70804
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To: Gay State Conservative
Majority rule? What does the LA Slimes know (or care) about "majority rule"? Riddle us this,LA Slimes....why,when the RAT Party was in the minority in the Senate,did it take 60 votes to get a nominee confirmed?

Senate rules. It takes 60 votes to cut off debate and allow a vote. All very Constitutional.

7 posted on 01/02/2007 6:22:28 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: shrinkermd

Suddenly all the parlimentary procedures and rules manipulations are a bad thing, and on the day the RATs take power. Gee ... I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! /TagUnnecessary


8 posted on 01/02/2007 6:22:44 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Saddam is Dead! Bush's Fault. [Pray for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub.])
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To: shrinkermd

"Holds" = Voter Disenfranchisement


9 posted on 01/02/2007 6:29:57 AM PST by monocle
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To: shrinkermd

"Holds" are obnoxious but they are the final defense against democratic despotism. That is the majority, even an overwhelming majority, can be as despotic as any dictator.


10 posted on 01/02/2007 6:35:16 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Gay State Conservative
Majority rule? What does the LA Slimes know (or care) about "majority rule"?

Last year they cared only about minority rights.

Did something happen in the last year to change their minds

Other than the election?

11 posted on 01/02/2007 6:37:39 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Senate rules are nowhere in the Constitution, except that they be thirty-five years old and set their own rules.
We should all declare ourselves Senators, or declare shennanigans.


12 posted on 01/02/2007 6:42:15 AM PST by steve8714 (Isn't Israel a sovereign nation? Why do they do what we tell them to do?)
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To: steve8714
Senate rules are nowhere in the Constitution, except that they be thirty-five years old and set their own rules. We should all declare ourselves Senators, or declare shennanigans.

Check again. Article I, Section 5: "Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."

13 posted on 01/02/2007 6:44:56 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Senate rules. It takes 60 votes to cut off debate and allow a vote. All very Constitutional.

Actually neither Constitutional nor Unconstitutional. The Senate rule for cutting off debate and allowing a vote is a senate rule not addressed by the Constitution. However, if they are going to claim they are denying cloture and refusing to cut off debate, then they should continue to debate the issue until they are ready to allow a vote rather than moving on to another issue. Otherwise they should be required to vote to table the issue in order to move on to another issue. This is how the GOP could have forced a vote without invoking the "nuclear" aka the "constitutional" option. Anytime the dems refused cloture, the GOP should have countered by refusing to allow the issue to be tabled and force the dems to continue debate on the issue rather than moving on to some other issue on how to spend more of OUR money.

14 posted on 01/02/2007 6:51:27 AM PST by VRWCmember
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