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Fairness for Lewinsky
Washington Post ^ | 2 January 2007 | Richard Cohen

Posted on 01/02/2007 5:18:23 AM PST by shrinkermd

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To: shrinkermd
It is a telling thing that liberals so consistently label the consequences of their own decisions as "unfair".

When one trips and falls down, is it "unfair" or the natural action of gravity? If one deliberately jumps out of a moving vehicle, falling and injuring onesself, is that injury "unfair" or the expected consequence of that decision?

So, then, when a woman has sexual relations with the married, sitting POTUS, who is also her boss, is the resulting infamy "unfair", or is it an easily predicted consequence of a bad decision?

Ideally, people should forgive. But Monica should not be the least bit surprised that many do not.

181 posted on 01/03/2007 11:20:03 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: shrinkermd
Screw Monica Lewinsky.

Some of you Freepers are going soft. Get off the forum. Find some other place to hang out.

182 posted on 01/03/2007 11:26:57 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Elsie

I am not Jesus so I am not able to forgive the sins that were committed. Only Jesus can.


183 posted on 01/03/2007 11:33:02 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: sodpoodle
but in those cases the real subject matter is not sex but hypocrisy. Other than those, no names come to mind."

How about Gary Hart?

184 posted on 01/03/2007 11:37:26 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: shrinkermd
It would be nice, too, and fair, also, if Lewinsky were treated by the media as it would treat a man....

This is the year 2007, brand new and full of promise. It would be nice if my colleagues in the media would resolve to treat Monica Lewinsky as a lady

1. If/when Lewinsky acts like a lady she will be treated as one. If/when she grows a pair and stitches one on, she can be treated as a man. If/when she does both, she will have become either Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced Boy or the world's most famous drag queen, in which case her star will either rise very high or fall very low. Heaven help her in either circumstance.

2. Why is Cohen talking about the media's treatment of Lewinsky? She's yesterday's news and hasn't had a real headine in years.

3. Yes, she should be treated fairly and with Christian love. But when she did the deed with the world's most famous man and blabbed about it, she took out a lifelong membership in Club Freakshow, from which no one returns. She went beyond history and entered infamy.

4. Lastly, if a man had done what she had done... Bubba, you don't even wanna THINK about going there!

185 posted on 01/03/2007 11:42:59 AM PST by Silly (sarcasmoff.com)
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To: Kenton
"Where, pray tell, is the man who is remembered just for sex? Where is the guy who is the constant joke for something he did in his sexually wanton youth?"

Didn't you see the picture you posted?

He was out blowing his own horn

186 posted on 01/03/2007 11:56:15 AM PST by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: shrinkermd

187 posted on 01/03/2007 12:39:49 PM PST by Silly (sarcasmoff.com)
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To: beckysueb

Ok, I now see your point.

Thanks.


188 posted on 01/03/2007 8:28:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Cementjungle
Give us one good reson.

Good enough???

189 posted on 01/03/2007 8:30:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Silly
Lastly, if a man had done what she had done... Bubba, you don't even wanna THINK about going there!

Foley WHO??

190 posted on 01/03/2007 8:32:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: shrinkermd; KantianBurke; OldFriend
I also neither approved or disapproved of their conduct. I merely noted two were Presidential candidates and one was a wildly popular conservative radio talk show host. The point being these three men have been forgiven and moved on by an appreciable number of "conservatives" while such is not the case for female Lewinsky.

OK, let me explain it to you. Pay attention.

Rudolph Giuliani. Who is he? He's the mob-busting former New York state prosecutor that neutered the Gambino crime family. He's a Republican who scored a major upset to become mayor of the largest city in America, a legendary Democratic stronghold. Backing up his tough talk with action, he got results, transforming the image of New York from a violent, seedy tourist trap to a safer, cleaned-up model for the rest of America's metropolii. He is largely credited for keeping New York from tearing itself apart as it suffered the most savage attack in the history of the nation -- a terrorist attack slaughtering three thousand people and destroying an international landmark in the process. He was named Time magazine's Person of the Year for 2001.

Newt Gingrich. Who is he? He's the man who endured the slings and arrows of the media as House Minority Leader, rhetorically hammering the left just as good as he was being hammered. He demonstrated that America could survive even if the Federal government was shut down, striking a major blow for limited government. Devised the Contract With America that broke the Democrats' decades-long grip on the House and Senate, and hardly mellowed when he became the Speaker of the House in 1984. Since resigning under fire due not to his personal peccadillos but because of the underperformance of the GOP in the 1998 midterm elections, Gingrich has continued to be a strong voice for conservatism, and is one of the few truly articulate Republicans that could possibly run for President in 2008.

Rush Limbaugh. Who is he? He's the dark horse son in a conservative Missouri family prominent in legal circles. He's a college dropout and a former disc jockey that, like countless others, bounced from town to town. Searching for fulfillment and failing time after time, he finally followed the advice of a radio exec in California to just be himself on the air. The result? Talking about the values that he learned through osmosis back home combined with his rapier on-air wit, he practically became the mayor of Sacramento, CA. In a time when Larry King was the king of radio, he started working out of NYC for ABC against all odds. His barbed conservative views struck a chord in a nation hungering for an alternative to the liberally-biased news media, and he became a cultural phenomenon. In record time, he started wiping the floor with local hosts all over America, and is now enshrined in the Radio Hall of Fame. Loved by millions, despised by millions, millions tune in faithfully every morning. He is the Babe Ruth of talk radio, larger than the genre itself. It is unlikely anyone will touch his popularity during his lifetime.

Now....who's Monica Lewinsky? How did she rise to fame, or infamy? What is her unique talent? What separates her from literally millions of her ilk? What has she done for any amount of people that might obscure character flaws exposed by the white hot spotlight of celebrity? And once you factor out those flaws, what's left?

Wanna take a crack at that, shrinker? And then tell me how the disparity of treatment between her and the former three has something to do with her gender.

191 posted on 01/03/2007 10:05:33 PM PST by L.N. Smithee ("Bipartisanship...has become a higher value than justice..." - Bill Bennett on the Iraq Study Group)
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