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Scientists find way to slash cost of drugs
The Guardian UK ^ | Jan. 2, 2007 | Sarah Boseley

Posted on 01/01/2007 9:41:39 PM PST by seacapn

Two UK-based academics have devised a way to invent new medicines and get them to market at a fraction of the cost charged by big drug companies, enabling millions in poor countries to be cured of infectious diseases and potentially slashing the NHS drugs bill.

Sunil Shaunak, professor of infectious diseases at Imperial College, based at Hammersmith hospital, calls their revolutionary new model "ethical pharmaceuticals".

Improvements they devise to the molecular structure of an existing, expensive drug turn it technically into a new medicine which is no longer under a 20-year patent to a multinational drug company and can be made and sold cheaply.

The process has the potential to undermine the monopoly of the big drug companies and bring cheaper drugs not only to poor countries but back to the UK.

Professor Shaunak and his colleague from the London School of Pharmacy, Steve Brocchini, have linked up with an Indian biotech company which will manufacture the first drug - for hepatitis C - if clinical trials in India, sponsored by the Indian government, are successful. Hepatitis C affects 170 million people worldwide and at least 200,000 in the UK.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: healthcare; india; patents; prescriptiondrugs
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Now things get interesting...

If this approach to drugmaking works out, will the resulting drugs be legal in the US? If not, how wide will the price differential grow between drugs purchased in the US, and drugs purchased in other countries? What happens to "innovation and development?"

More details on the specific Hep-C drug mentioned in the article are available in this more detailed article.

This will be an interesting topic to track in the next few years...

1 posted on 01/01/2007 9:41:41 PM PST by seacapn
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To: seacapn

The pharmaceutical equivalent of Napster (before it went straight!).


2 posted on 01/01/2007 9:51:21 PM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: seacapn
If this approach to drugmaking works out, will the resulting drugs be legal in the US?

You can bet the FDA will not approve them. On another note, the pharmaceuticals could stop providing their drugs to them. Who will suffer the most for that?

3 posted on 01/01/2007 9:51:51 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: seacapn
The headline is hilarious! "Scientists find way to slash cost of drug" - as if they made some "scientific" discovery. Their only "discovery" is to copy drugs without breaking the law. If this holds up in the US too, it may result in drying up investment in pharmaceutical companies.

Not really an interesting article. If they succeed in the courts, then yes, it gets interesting. Otherwise, it's just random speculation *not* based on science.
4 posted on 01/01/2007 9:53:37 PM PST by billybudd
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To: billybudd

Their own title for them ... "Ethical pharmaceuticals"
is just as funny, since their stated business plan is to steal someone else's work product and change it just enough to convince a court that it's something different.


5 posted on 01/01/2007 9:59:46 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: seacapn

"The process has the potential to undermine the monopoly of the big drug companies and bring cheaper drugs not only to poor countries .."

The most likely outcome of the efforts the Guardian is championing will be a decrease in R&D expenditures by drug companies. If the methods to rip off their inventions, thereby negating their billions in dollars of research expenditures, then why should these companies spend the money to develop new drugs? Why not just make a better floor cleaner? Efforts like this are simply felonious assault hidden by liberals but with huge negative payoffs.

Want your grandchildren to die because no company wants to spend the money to invent drugs to battle "new disease 9.0?" Continue to support efforts such as the Guardian likes.


6 posted on 01/01/2007 10:01:05 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: seacapn

Even *IF* this is successful in it's first few applications, the law of diminishing returns for the "ethical pharmacologists" (projecting insecurities much?) will quickly kick in. The existing pharma companies will run their drugs through similar number crunching programs and patent the related compounds the same day they apply for the patent for the main test candidate compound.

Once the initial effects are felt, all this will do is bolster the position of the largest conglomerates by raising the price of entry into the pharma R&D field.


7 posted on 01/01/2007 10:01:10 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Rembrandt

Honestly, if private pharma companies cut way back on development, I'd expect a political push for the government to take over that function. Perhaps the FDA or HHS would be expanded. Perhaps we'd have a new "Department of Medical Advancement" foisted into the cabinet.


8 posted on 01/01/2007 10:04:41 PM PST by seacapn
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To: EricBlair11
No but I don't want them do die because they can't afford them either.

Wait till you see how hard to get they are when they're 'free'.

L

10 posted on 01/01/2007 10:16:11 PM PST by Lurker (History's most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: seacapn
The 'interesting' part will be how long it will take for the big pharmaceutical companies to just stop investing the hundreds of billions in R&D since some third world scientist will be able to rip it off and sell it in the U.S. legally. Normally, this is done to Microsoft in China and Russia or Britney Spears in Thailand or Brazil. But I've never heard the words 'scientific' or 'ethical' attached to the theft of intellectual property before.

Maybe THAT is the 'interesting' part.

12 posted on 01/01/2007 10:32:06 PM PST by bpjam (Never Give Up, Never Surrender (Unless James Baker gives you permission))
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To: EricBlair11
This is a huge question. First they have to get by the patent restrictions and then the litigation that will be filed against them.
I know the inventor of a new whole blood replacement substance. It works and is already in use in veterinary medicine. He has spent the last year working with the attorneys to get all of his patents right, filed, and excepted. None of his research was done on the major pharmaceutical companies dime. This is one doctor and research scientist who had an idea and then followed it through to a positive result. He got a smaller grant from the government and made things work. This substance came out of his head, a product of his intelligence. It belongs to him and no one else. I would not expect someone to make a small change and then be able to steal his invention.
Without protection from theft the small researcher could not afford to continue their work. I think this is somewhat of a scam to do an end run around the patients that are legally in place.
13 posted on 01/01/2007 10:35:42 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: taxesareforever
You can bet the FDA will not approve them. On another note, the pharmaceuticals could stop providing their drugs to them. Who will suffer the most for that?

Yes they will but they will have to go through the same testing as the original innovator of the drug as it is a new molecular structure but works the same way in the body.

The major drug companies do that today but will market their "new drug" as a competitor to the old drug and will not give you a generic price. The only way this plan will work is if the companies do not do all the required trials and ship it direct to the third world countries without the clinical trials. This may seem safe. It is not safe. Sometimes a slight molecular twist will give a drug a new property that is dangerous. Some years back a new antiviral made it to clinical trials in humans. The drug was acutely hepatotoxic and resulted in total liver failure and death for several of the people in the trials.

14 posted on 01/01/2007 10:48:59 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash and proud of it, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast)
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To: taxesareforever
You can bet the FDA will not approve them. On another note, the pharmaceuticals could stop providing their drugs to them. Who will suffer the most for that?

Yes they will but they will have to go through the same testing as the original innovator of the drug as it is a new molecular structure but works the same way in the body.

The major drug companies do that today but will market their "new drug" as a competitor to the old drug and will not give you a generic price. The only way this plan will work is if the companies do not do all the required trials and ship it direct to the third world countries without the clinical trials. This may seem safe. It is not safe. Sometimes a slight molecular twist will give a drug a new property that is dangerous. Some years back a new antiviral made it to clinical trials in humans. The drug was acutely hepatotoxic and resulted in total liver failure and death for several of the people in the trials.

15 posted on 01/01/2007 10:51:06 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash and proud of it, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast)
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To: seacapn

Scientists find way to slash cost of drugs

Did they manage to take insurance companies and lawyers out of the equation?

16 posted on 01/01/2007 10:51:15 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: seacapn

Want cheaper drugs? Two words: Tort Reform

We'll never see it.


17 posted on 01/01/2007 10:54:20 PM PST by Egon (I stand beside you as your partner, in front as your defender, behind as... hey! nice butt!)
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To: EricBlair11

Hard as in "you ain't seen nothin' yet." Anybody that thinks this is a good idea has a borderline streak of criminality in them as well, as they are basically itching to buy stolen goods.


18 posted on 01/01/2007 11:08:21 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: cpdiii
The only way this plan will work is if the companies do not do all the required trials and ship it direct to the third world countries without the clinical trials.

There is a sad irony in the fact that the "innovators" and "scientists" touting this dangerous idea can, wihout even so much as a snigger, call their untested drugs "ethical pharmaceuticals".

19 posted on 01/01/2007 11:12:01 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: seacapn

Im all for reducing the cost of drugs, but there is one reality that must be dealt with.

The cost of development must be paid for. If the drug companys cannot fund the research, they won't perform the research (and forward progress will stop by necessity)

Drugs are rarely expensive because of the ingredients. They are expensive because it takes decades of expensive scientist developing the drug, proving it works, proving its safe and dealing with the government red tape...all during which time it garners NO revenue.


20 posted on 01/01/2007 11:42:49 PM PST by dman4384
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