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To: Joseph DeMaistre

"All who accept Jesus Christ, that's who God's chosen people are."

Careful brother. Saying that God changed His mind is the same as calling Him a liar.
Read Calvin if you want to understand who the Chosen People are.
The Jews remain God's chosen people. I did not notice that He rescinded that decision.


101 posted on 01/01/2007 10:07:25 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Reading Calvin is the last thing I would do. Why should I read the writings of a raving heretic?

The Jews lost their exclusive claim to the Covenant when they rejected Christ.


134 posted on 01/02/2007 8:00:04 AM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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To: Amos the Prophet
When someone can explain why:

a) the Pharisees who condemned Jesus to death were "God's chosen people" (Jesus said they were NOT children of Abraham but rather children of the devil)

b) Paul was wrong when he said that it is those who are children of faith who are children of Abraham, and thus the true recipients of the covenant promises

c) the writer of Hebrews was wrong when he said that WE (the NT church) are the nation of priests, etc (all covenant OT language)

d) how the Holy Spirit got confused and could not even remember the names of the 12 tribes when they are "Prophesied" to re-take the land in Revelation 7 (hint: there is no "tribe of Benjamin")

I actually have a notebook full of places where the New Testament clearly and unequivocally says that the blessings on "Israel" are and always have been to the "true Israel" or those of faith, including the current Gentile Church.

To argue that those blessings belong to an atheistic hegemonistic, secular state which will expel those who preach the good news of the Messiah, is only further testimony that modern American Christians don't know 1)the bible and 2)the history of theology of end times

150 posted on 01/02/2007 8:46:03 AM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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