if man was a product of his environment... we'd all STILL be living in caves!!! FREE WILL puts man above the animals... most of us anyway.
Posted on 12/31/2006 2:58:00 PM PST by Lorianne
Oh God. Poverty doesn't come as a result of one's neighborhood or surroundings. It comes as a result of one's own behavior. The fact that she moved has little to do with whatever success she's had. She stopped doing drugs (behavior) when she got to the new location. Something she could have done at the old location anyway.
Overall, (Todd Richardson, deputy director of HUD's Program Evaluation Division) says, it's better to move people than leave them in giant housing projects with high concentrations of poverty, one reason HUD has been demolishing public housing.
So, it doesn't work, but we'll keep doing it. What about the cost to the taxpayers? What about the new neighborhoods ruined or devalued because of the voucher clients moved in? This project has a cost, and unless it has a proven benefit, we should get rid of it.
"For property crime, there were 58 arrests for every 100 boys who moved to low-poverty neighborhoods,"
You can take the thug out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of the thug. I don't want these people moving out of the ghetto into my neighborhood or town.
New Orleans EWast was a great example of section 8 vouchers doing no good. The riff raff moved in and middle class moved out.
Interesting that the girls did better though. I would have thought the opposite.
Well, at least they speak English, are in the country legally and don't march in our streets demanding we change the entire country into what they left behind. How do you feel about illegal alien barrios in your neighborhood?
I work in a new, upsacale neighborhood that the city council saw fit to locate low-income housing. Shootings, crime, graffitti, it all came with them. They finally had to shut down a foot bridge that connects the slum to neighborhood park because of vandalism (the sign on the boarded-up bridge says, "closed due to vandalism").
Funny how things degrade to the lowest common denominator, but don't expect the "social scientists" to understand entropy.
if man was a product of his environment... we'd all STILL be living in caves!!! FREE WILL puts man above the animals... most of us anyway.
The results I have seen are more like cancer. The money pays for exporting slum criminality to unsuspecting neighborhoods.
"How do you feel about illegal alien barrios in your neighborhood?'
I'd take Via Cuna to East St Louis any time.
btt
"Well, at least they speak English, are in the country legally and don't march in our streets demanding we change the entire country into what they left behind. How do you feel about illegal alien barrios in your neighborhood?"
Wouldn't it be nice to have neither?
I live in a large apartment project that (on occasion) takes Section 8 vouchers. I almost always know when they've moved a new family in, because we start seeing tagging around the building, the three am courtyard arguments start, other apartments get broken into and, frequently, the convenience store across the street gets robbed. After a couple of months, the management catches on and evicts them, and things go back to normal again.
Doesn't happen every time, but often enough that the correlation is obvious. You can take the dude out of the hood, but.....
Poverty is a state of mind, not a financial situation. Blacks are each other's own worst enemies when trying to get out of the getto. Any child that suceeds in their education is accused of being "too white" and dragged back down into the filth of poverty.
Without a doubt, the dumbest (leading) question of 2006!
A more relevant question in the real universe would be:
How Much Do the Poor Affect A Neighborhood?
At least in the universe that I've experienced, the affect has been invariant and negative.
Which suggests a serious discussion about the definition of "poor".
Attitude has a great deal to do with it.You can leave the ghetto and all the rampant crime but if you stay in that narrow framework of thinking that the world revolves around gossip,bling bling and partying,it will be all for naught.
Especially important when raising kids.I have seen SO many very bright young black kids get intellectually smothered by mothers who have small minded ghetto mentalities and pass them on to the kids.Thats why its common to hear six and seven year old kids cussing and acting like little thugs.Imprinting is a motha,if I may be punful.
i've heard it said that "Slums don't make slum people, slum people make slums just like Good Churches don't make good people, good people make good churches."
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