[zimdog]

Clammy, how hard was it to find the article when I gave you the author, journal, and date? If it wasn't sufficient, how did you find it? The Journal of Modern History does not publish several volumes each month, and Rafael Scheck does not write several articles on African POWs in the Second World War in each of these alleged volumes. You're a real piece of work.

But of course this is all just a diversion away from the historical fact of 57,000+ Muslim nazi troops.

If it's a historical fact, prove it. Provide the page numbers.

the sources WITH TITLES - something Zimmy does not consider himself obliged to provide - have already been made available

"Anybody can throw out a book title or author. If you can't show specifically what they say and represent it accurately you shouldn't expect others to take your word on it."

And the answer is I won't.

You can claim whatever reason you want for your refusal to provide more accurate citations upon request. But the fact is that you are deliberately obstructing access to the proof you claim exists.

[lqclamar]

Just found a new number, so we can update the muslim Nazi count:

1. 13th, 21st, and 23rd SS. The muster records are 21,065 for the Handschar, 3,793 for the Kama, and Skanderbeg had 9,000 men. All three were majority muslim units. The 13th being all-muslim except for the officers. The 21st was majority Kosovar and Albanian muslims, plus the German officers and a few non-muslim Albanians. The 23rd was majority muslim with a Catholic Croat minority. In total they had around 30,000 muslim soldiers between them.

2. Deutsche Arabisches Infantry Battalion No. 845 - 6,300 Arab Muslim colonial troops (Ailsby 2004, 54-60)

3. Phalange Africana - 400 member arab nazi militia that assisted in North Africa (Ailsby 2004)

4. 950th Infantry Regiment "Indian" - 1,600 muslims out of 3,000 troops (Calculated from Ailsby, Ch. 5. - 3,000 total Indian troops: 516 Sikh, and the remainder was 2/3rds muslim and 1/3rd Hindu)

5. Légion des Volontaires Français Regiment 638, Battalion 3 - at least 200 African muslims from Algeria (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=877)

6. Osttürkischer Waffen-Verband der SS - Turkistani and arab unit. Muster shows 8,500 members at strongest.

7. Rashid Ali al-Kilani's forces - Iraqi muslims who fought for the Nazi-allied insurgency of Kilani. Kilani's uprising against the British-backed Iraqi government was formally supported by the Axis and supplied with arms by Germany. The British reported 10,000 in casualties taken on the Iraqi side, meaning at least that many fought for Kilani.

8. Waffengruppe "Krim" - Chechen muslim unit on the Eastern Front - 10,000 members (Historische Veröffentlichungen, Freie Universität Berlin Press 1998, p. 95)

NEW TOTAL: 67,000 Muslim Nazis.

Other known part or all-muslim Nazi units unaccounted for:

- The rest of Rashid Ali al-Kilani's army
- Other muslims in the Légion des Volontaires Français
- Muslim members of the 100,000 Vichy French troops under Boisson in French West Africa (figure from "French Colonialism Unmasked: The Vichy Years in French West Africa" by Ruth Ginio, 2006)
- Muslim Bosnians who fought for the Ustashe Nazi Croat regime
- Muslim members of the Kaukasischen Waffen-Verband der SS - had 5,000 total from the Caucases region, including muslim Azerbaijanis.