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To: tgambill; eleni121
Just found a new number, so we can update the muslim Nazi count:

1. 13th, 21st, and 23rd SS. The muster records are 21,065 for the Handschar, 3,793 for the Kama, and Skanderbeg had 9,000 men. All three were majority muslim units. The 13th being all-muslim except for the officers. The 21st was majority Kosovar and Albanian muslims, plus the German officers and a few non-muslim Albanians. The 23rd was majority muslim with a Catholic Croat minority. In total they had around 30,000 muslim soldiers between them.

2. Deutsche Arabisches Infantry Battalion No. 845 - 6,300 Arab Muslim colonial troops (Ailsby 2004, 54-60)

3. Phalange Africana - 400 member arab nazi militia that assisted in North Africa (Ailsby 2004)

4. 950th Infantry Regiment "Indian" - 1,600 muslims out of 3,000 troops (Calculated from Ailsby, Ch. 5. - 3,000 total Indian troops: 516 Sikh, and the remainder was 2/3rds muslim and 1/3rd Hindu)

5. Légion des Volontaires Français Regiment 638, Battalion 3 - at least 200 African muslims from Algeria (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=877)

6. Osttürkischer Waffen-Verband der SS - Turkistani and arab unit. Muster shows 8,500 members at strongest.

7. Rashid Ali al-Kilani's forces - Iraqi muslims who fought for the Nazi-allied insurgency of Kilani. Kilani's uprising against the British-backed Iraqi government was formally supported by the Axis and supplied with arms by Germany. The British reported 10,000 in casualties taken on the Iraqi side, meaning at least that many fought for Kilani.

8. Waffengruppe "Krim" - Chechen muslim unit on the Eastern Front - 10,000 members (Historische Veröffentlichungen, Freie Universität Berlin Press 1998, p. 95)

NEW TOTAL: 67,000 Muslim Nazis.

Other known part or all-muslim Nazi units unaccounted for:

- The rest of Rashid Ali al-Kilani's army
- Other muslims in the Légion des Volontaires Français
- Muslim members of the 100,000 Vichy French troops under Boisson in French West Africa (figure from "French Colonialism Unmasked: The Vichy Years in French West Africa" by Ruth Ginio, 2006)
- Muslim Bosnians who fought for the Ustashe Nazi Croat regime
- Muslim members of the Kaukasischen Waffen-Verband der SS - had 5,000 total from the Caucases region, including muslim Azerbaijanis.

275 posted on 02/25/2007 2:32:02 PM PST by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: lqclamar
1. 13th, 21st, and 23rd SS. The muster records are 21,065 for the Handschar, 3,793 for the Kama, and Skanderbeg had 9,000 men. All three were majority muslim units. The 13th being all-muslim except for the officers. The 21st was majority Kosovar and Albanian muslims, plus the German officers and a few non-muslim Albanians. The 23rd was majority muslim with a Catholic Croat minority. In total they had around 30,000 muslim soldiers between them.

It's been established that 90% of troop in the 13th were Muslims. It's also been established that the 21st and 23rd were recruited as "Albanian" units and Albanians are not monolithically Muslims. Please provide specific breakdowns for the 21st and 23rd.

5. Légion des Volontaires Français Regiment 638, Battalion 3 - at least 200 African muslims from Algeria (http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=877)

See, this is why I ask for specific citations. You state that there are "at least 200 African muslims" and the source you cite talks about "some 200 colored [volunteers], mainly arabs from Algeria."

So while you're saying that there are at least 200 Muslims, your source is saying that a plurality of approximately 200 "colored" troops were Algerian Arabs. You're playing with numbers again, although you'll insist that you're merely rounding the numbers up. More specific citations for 3, 6, and 7 are needed. A more specific citation for 4 would be appreciated.

I'll look at the Ailsby when I get back next weekend.

278 posted on 02/25/2007 2:44:24 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar

Where did you find this? Your link for my records. This is amazing.


282 posted on 02/25/2007 11:56:49 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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