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Interesting point. It should also be pointed out that the one time he did use a scholarly source - the Scheck article - he neglected to provide anything remotely close to a full citation and gave only a partial quote so as to disguise the fact that the same article gave substantially lower numbers for actual African combattants and indicated that they were forced conscripts.

I gave you the citation for Scheck here, and for Echenberg even earlier. This is how you found Scheck's article, which is how you brought yourself to believe that when he said that France had 275,000 West African troops, he didn't really mean it. I will ask you again not to disparage my integrity.

And I will ask you to refrain from insulting those brave soldiers who came to the war through a draft and fought the Nazis with honor and ferocity, defending your freedom to insult them.

In short, Zimmy's own citation standards form himself are substantially lower than both the citations I have given and the additional information he demands of me.

I gave you page numbers for Sheck and Echenberg. You've given authors and titles only -- a standard you earlier dismissed.

. Again, if I believed he was honestly interested in investigating the numbers of those sources I'd take the time to oblige him. But I know from experience that he is not

I'm asking for you to defend your claims with facts. If you are unwilling or unable to do that, the rest of are aware of your penchant for ignoring facts that you find uncomfortable, refusing to provide evidence you claim exists, flip-flopping your standards when it suits you, and making baseless attacks on the honesty of other FReepers and, by extension, the forum as a whole.

The world of citations according to Zimmy. Here's what his claimed citation stated:

"Raffael Scheck in his article on African POWs in the Second World War, in the Journal of Modern History, July 2005"

Notice there is no actual title of the article itself, no volume number of the journal, and no page numbers. Also note that he finally produced this source after weeks of evasion and quoting from Marxist reparationist websites like Africultures.com. It's both odd and hypocritical that he now demands I meet citation standards that he himself refuses to abide by.

But of course this is all just a diversion away from the historical fact of 57,000+ Muslim nazi troops. It stems from no genuine desire to verify those numbers or check the pages they appear on (the sources WITH TITLES - something Zimmy does not consider himself obliged to provide - have already been made available). Rather, it's simply an attempt to obfuscate the fact of 57,000+ muslim nazis. If I went back and looked up all the page numbers he'd simply find something else to complain about. Hell, I could scan and PDF the book for him and post a highlighted copy online and he'd still find an excuse not to accept it. All of that leaves me asking why I should even bother wasting my time for him. And the answer is I won't.