Posted on 12/31/2006 9:33:43 AM PST by kronos77
After the 9/11, a worldwide “War on terror” begun in order to disband and neutralize Islamic terrorist networks across the globe. The main focus of the largest anti-terrorist campaign in history is focused in the Middle East area, as well as in Afghanistan. The Balkan Peninsula is the European area where this campaign has also taken place, with numerous arrests and a continuous effort into riding the fundamentalist out of the area. The question arising though, is how did the extremists gain a foothold in South Eastern Europe in the first place, and what was the reaction of the international community over the previous years.
So, the outbreak of the civil war in Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1992 presented an unparalleled opportunity for the international Mujaheedin to storm Europe, establish safe havens in the area and thus initiate re-conquest of regions they previously ruled. The leader of Bosnia, Alia Izebegovic was eager to obtain as much assistance as possible and didn’t hesitate in providing the necessary framework by which the Islamic ties were forged. In the same year, a variety of Islamic mercenaries flocked into the Balkans in order to support the “Holy cause”, meaning the establishment of the first Islamic state in Europe. The end of the war in 1995 saw quite a few of those mujahedin, acquiring Bosnian citizenship and establishing the first Islamic community in the village of Bocinja Donja.
"Ethnic Bosnian Muslim commander talks about Jihadist determination to kill "enemies of Allah" just before the attack on Pocjelovo. "It is a Jihad... and with even greater spark to kill Allah's enemies because today they are strong and pronounced as they have never been before"
video: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/michaletos/007_files/pocjelovo.rm
(Excerpt) Read more at serbianna.com ...
Geez, was the geocities site getting too many hits for you to access it fast enough?
What did I say about racism? I said you were pro-genocide. As in, you advocate the murder of many or all of the members of a ethnic group, nationality, or other distinct population group (such as Syrians, Iranians, Meccans, etc.)
Many muslims are Nazi still TODAY!!!!
There are no better places to buy "Mein Kampf" or "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", or to hear virulent Nazi antisemitic broadcasts that praise Hitler than in muslim countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the "Palestinian territories".
The German Nazis had a secret plan to destroy Christianity in the Reich, which has come to light relatively recently. The muslim Nazis boast of a similar--but bigger--plan OPENLY, starting with Serbian Orthodoxy!!!!
And all the antsemitic and anti-Christian literature from Egypt and other muslim "paradises" can be found in all too many US mosques. islamist fifth columnists abound in every large city in America!!!!!
Oh my, you are testy. But only an idiot would ignore the obvious proof...and would not stack the deck for starters. You see, even photos, eye witness accounts, being present...would not convince you simply because you are pursuing an agenda.
I clearly know that you say that you need proof as a pretence. In reality, you take the proof and either convolute it, fabricate a response that clearly a feeble attempt to discredit instead of establish dialogue towards an understanding, but to dissect it to a confortable level in order to discredit it to the unwary reader.
you and I both know, that there is no proof other than your actual presense that would convince you. Since we don't have a time machine, well....Hotshot, do the math...:))
OH, my, you provide very little factual data, but do provide a host of "thin line personal attacks"...very good. Maybe you're not an amateur.....just an experienced disinfo antagonist who is just another lost sheep wandering around in the desert of blogs and forums trying to make a home and find his herder. And like most lost sheep, you try to pull the wool.....(git it, thar you go....:)) over most everyone's eyes for your buck.
Try to provide facts, references and links other than the Blogs; "Ahmed Bin Lostalongtime"......we'll talk later gator.
Many white people are Nazi still TODAY!!!!
What's your point?
If you provide obvious proof, I'll be happy to accept it. However, you haven't provided any proof, only allegations.
That's not "stacking the deck." That's not even "coming to the table."
I clearly know that you say that you need proof as a pretence.
I clearly know that you say you don't need proof because you have none.
I'm not the one making wild allegations that need to be proven. You are.
Also, I'm not the one trying to present to blogspot websites as unassailable evidence.
Since you're entire last post says the inverse of what your previous post said, I'll assume you're a disruptor, and alert the moderators if you keep up your assault on basic logic.
"Since you're entire last post says the inverse of what your previous post said, I'll assume you're a disruptor, and alert the moderators if you keep up your assault on basic logic."
No, you are the disruptor by providing personal attacks that edge on a thin line, offering little facts and being an obvious antagonizer. I think we should report each other to the mods and get a read out. They will call us both, obviously, and say stick to the facts, provide examples, and stop with the personal attacks. This also means YOU! You have no basic logic, just trying to avoid truths and facts......there are no wild allegations as you call them. We'll play, no problem.
The Point is simply stated....There are many, many Muslims that are Nazi even today! The few Aryan groups, Nazi and KKK groups don't even come close. So, how many white people constitute many since you brought it up. What are your figures? What are your references? and, just who are you using as an example......back up your assertion.
I've done nothing of the sort.
offering little facts and being an obvious antagonizer.
Why would I need to "offer facts" when you are the one making the claim? The burden of proof is on you.
You have no basic logic, just trying to avoid truths and facts......there are no wild allegations as you call them.
I'm not trying to avoid facts. If you'll read my posts on this thread, you'll see that I've asked you several times to provide evidence. You have yet to offer any.
Very few non-muslim white people are Nazis. Those that are are usually poor, pathetic, and marginal skinheads who are totally ridiculous, as can be seen by all.
In contrast, the muslim-Nazi, Muftist ideology is the foundation of modern islamism. True moderate muslims often express the fear that this ideology is becoming so dominant that "islam" and "islamism" may become one and the same in the near future.
And muslim-Nazis are an infinitely greater threat to the world than are the mangy Nazi skinheads.
I just said that many white people are Nazis even today. I never claimed a certain number. If you want specific numbers, add up the membership numbers of the various Nazi and neo-Nazi organizations. I'll bet you a nickel that you won't find many Muslims among them.
In fact, if you're actually claiming that Muslims (including black Africans, Semitic Arabs, and Southeast Asian Indonesians) formally and ardently support a party whose prime objective is promoting German supremacy over non-Germans (a large group that includes black Africans, Semites, and Southeast Asians), you'll need to back that up with proof.
yep. You've got it right.
Many white people are Nazi still TODAY!!!!
What's your point?
Now, don't go putting words where it doesn't belong. I never said Muslims were included. However, when we are talking about Muslims, now, do we mean Arabic only, or are we including the African American and whites that have converted?
When you use the term many, this is pretty significant to assert.
I will agree that you probably won't find many Muslims in Nazi organizations. However, you will find them having the same method of control, and same ideals with almost the same modus of operation to be suppressive, often using the same methods or variations. The only difference is that most Muslims are of ME decent and Many of the Nazi's types are white that belong to these organizations. What percentage of the white population are members of this group, Shouldn't be too difficult to get an estimate. However, shall we compare the number of "Wahabbis'.....or African Americans who are Muslims and what they have to say about rights, :)) I think that a little video might be available to give an example......:)) In other words, its not the numbers it's their oppressive and nazi like laws under their own Holy book.......that leads millions. Now, that is a large number........and would qualify as Mega-many....lolol...:))
Any google search for "Nazi" or "neo-Nazi" will turn up plenty responses. I will not link to these pages out of principle.
I made no claims to numbers. I said only that many white people are Nazis still today.
For the obsessively and disruptively inqusitive, I will amend that to say too many and invite them to find the specific numbers and demographics they seek without attempting to enlist my unpaid labor by asking me to prove a claim I never made.
Good day.
No, you just said that many Muslims were Nazis. Now you are saying that some Muslims share some ideals and methods with Nazis.
But you also say "most Muslims are of ME decent," so you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Nice chatting with you. Good day.
First, thousands of ethnic Albanian muslims fought along side the muslim Kosovars in Hitler's 21st SS Skanderbeg. So they're certainly part of the calculation.
Second, It is indeed true that Albania itself had a net gain in Jewish population, as well as its own resistance movements. These movements were distinct from the rest of the Balkans though because Albania was invaded by Italy. Hitler did not bother with it until the last year of the war after Mussolini's regime had crumbled.
Review at your leisure. It's a hodgepodge, sure, but there's enough in there to demolish any contention that Hitler didn't see himself as a Christian, or wasn't acting under the impression that destroying the Jews was God's work.
Sorry, but I don't consider Wikipedia a reliable source. Nor am I particularly convinced by a list of quotations that come almost entirely from prior to 1934. Meanwhile there are dozens of documented quotations by Hitler - particularly from the Reich years - where he denounces Christianity in the strongest terms possible. See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1327591/posts
"I don't interfere in matters of belief. Therefore I can't allow churchmen to interfere with temporal affairs. The organised lie must be smashed. The State must remain the absolute master.
When I was younger, I thought it was necessary to set about matters with dynamite. I've since realised that there' S room for a little subtlety. The rotten branch falls of itself. The final state must be: in St. Peter's Chair, a senile officiant; facing him, a few sinister old women, as gaga and as poor in spirit as anyone could wish. The young and healthy are on our side. Against a Church that identifies itself with the State, as in England, I have nothing to say. But, even so, it's impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies. After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn't prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls.
Christ was an Aryan, and St. Paul used his doctrine to mobilise the criminal underworld and thus organise a protoBolshevism. This intrusion upon the world marks the end of a long reign, that of the clear Greco-Latin genius.
What is this God who takes pleasure only in seeing men grovel before Him? Try to picture to yourselves the meaning of the following, quite simple story. God creates the conditions for sin. Later on He succeeds, with the help of the Devil, in causing man to sin. Then He employs a virgin to bring into the world a son who, by His death, will redeem humanity!
I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mahomet, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians! In your lifetime, you used to hear the music of Richard Wagner. After your death, it will be nothing but hallelujahs, the waving of palms, children of an age for the feeding-bottle, and hoary old men. The man of the isles pays homage to the forces of nature. But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation."
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