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To: Marysecretary; Don Joe; Boiler Plate; nmh; Sue Perkick; TommyDale; Arizona Carolyn; DocRock; ...

[..."Be careful not to do your acts of righteousness before men, to be seen by them...do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing..." (Matthew 6:1-4) ...]

Warren bashers accuse him of chicanery. He answers them with forthright
financial and tithing information. Then he is accused of boasting. Sheesh!

See Posts #402, #415, #460
Method = Technique = Gimmick.


887 posted on 01/03/2007 9:18:57 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark; nmh; Sue Perkick; TommyDale; Arizona Carolyn; DocRock; Gamecock
Oh, please, he hauls that boast out all the time, not just in reply to charges of chicanery.

For that matter, I can't recall too many (or any!) charges of financial chicanery. Sure, there's a definite "money-driven" agenda -- the man is quite up-front about advising churches on how to maximize their take from the sheep -- but I don't know of anyone accusing him of personally fattening his own wallet off "the movement."

Oh, I'm sure that someone has leveled that sort of allegation, so please spare yourself the effort of dredging up "proof" that it's happened. The point is, "financial chicanery" is far from the REAL issue. This guy is destroying the church, redefining the faith, seducing the very elect... THAT is the real issue.

His blatant pride, in violation of Christ's advisory to NOT boast of such financial "generosity" merely indicates that he "has his reward." What he does TO his own life is of no worry to the church in general. Yes, it's indicative of his character, and lack of Biblical grounding, but it doesn't destroy churches.

And the destruction of churches -- and lives -- is what is so troubling about this particular heretical movement.

889 posted on 01/03/2007 9:37:55 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Please...Your entire response is a gimmick.

Did Warren let the public know that he was a "reverse-tither" because he had been accused of something (or some kind of chicanery)? If so, I was not aware. Do you know this to be true? Please provide documentation.

When I have read about it or heard about the reverse tithing, it was not in the context of a defense.

So...If it was not in the context of a defense, then you see it as boasting?

And you didn't answer the question...Does he give 90% tithe to his church (as you stated) or does he use some of the 90% to fund his own self-controlled foundations (PEACE Plan, AIDS work, etc.)? If so, is that really tithing?

And Warren did not give "forthright financial and tithing information" as you stated. He did not give reviewed financial statements and receipts...He just said that he reverse tithes.

"Keep away from them...By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people." (Romans 16:17&18)

891 posted on 01/03/2007 9:43:27 AM PST by pby
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To: Jo Nuvark

yup


1,048 posted on 01/03/2007 7:14:40 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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