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Looking Behind the 'Purpose Driven' Sheep's Clothing
Cybercast News Service ^ | December 29, 2006 | Christopher G. Adamo

Posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:18 AM PST by Gamecock

The facade is beginning to peel back from the so-called ministry of Southern California Pastor Rick Warren, author of "The Purpose Driven Church" and "The Purpose Driven Life." Unfortunately, many among his ample flock have far too much invested in him, both emotionally and otherwise, to admit their mistakes and cut their losses.

Moreover, he certainly faces no possibility of in-depth scrutiny from the "mainstream media," as his brand of "Christianity" poses little or no threat to their liberal social agenda. Yet to the degree that anyone at all questions Warren as anything less than authentic, his response is thoroughly telling as to his true character, as well as the nature of his "ministry."

Joseph Farah, editor-in-chief of the Internet news site, "World Net Daily," opened a can of worms by calling Warren to account over his fawning praise of the terrorist stronghold of Syria. While there, Warren lauded the brutish dictatorship as "peaceful," claiming that the Islamist government does not officially sanction "extremism of any kind."

When confronted by Farah, an American of Middle Eastern decent who knows too well the history of horror and tragedy faced by persecuted Christians in that region of the world, Warren immediately denied ever making such statements.

Subsequently, Farah offered as evidence a "YouTube" video from Saddleback Church, where Warren is pastor, inarguably proving Farah's statement. So Warren's church simply pulled the video from circulation and continued the denial, being unaware that a copy of the video file had been downloaded and is still in circulation. Warren's follow-up to this inconvenient circumstance is perhaps most telling of all.

In a concurrent set of moves, Warren sent a seemingly conciliatory e-mail to Farah while distributing another to his "flock," in which he characterized Farah's pursuit of the incident as nothing less than "doing Satan's job for him." Throughout this sorry episode, Farah's only error has been to suggest that Warren's disturbing behavior represents some new departure from consistency.

In fact, Warren is actually being entirely consistent. Whether his audience might be Farah himself, Syrian despot Bashar Assad or the Saddleback congregation, Warren tells each exactly what he believes they want to hear.

This pattern is the essence of what Warren is and what has made him so "successful" from a worldly perspective.

For those among his congregation who sincerely want to know the truth, the evidence is ample. Unfortunately, it always has been available, and any present "confusion" merely results from past decisions to ignore that evidence.

For example, his letter to the congregation decrying the "attack" and making his defense by invoking Scripture is barely four paragraphs long. Yet in those four paragraphs, he employs three different "translations" of the Bible. Why, it must be asked, does he not trust any single translation to convey God's message to humanity?

Could it be that he has his own message and agenda to advance, and that he has found it very convenient to utilize different wordings of different passages, not because they better convey God's purpose, but rather his own?

It would be better to ask, could his motivation possibly be anything else?

As Farah has refused to let this indefensible situation simply drop, Warren has responded by taking it to another realm, making personal attacks against Farah in an interview with the magazine, "Christianity Today." But once again, by so doing, Warren succeeds in revealing much more about himself than about his adversary.

Warren, who has not to date been known as any sort of standard bearer for Christian principle in the political arena, decries Farah (whose societal and moral views fall unambiguously on the right) and his ideological allies as part of a wrongful "political" encroachment on the faith.

In contrast, Warren's forays into the political realm prove, not surprisingly, to be decidedly leftist. At a recent conference on the African AIDS epidemic, Warren invited the very liberal Senator Barak Obama (D-Ill.) as a keynote speaker. He justified the inclusion of Obama, who avidly supports abortion and same-sex "marriage," on the grounds that Obama offered a worldly solution to ostensibly curb the spread of the disease through condom usage.

The morally ambiguous message conveyed by the advocacy of condoms, along with their inherent unreliability, make them nothing less than iconic to the abortion industry, which fully understands how much new business they generate. In the face of such pragmatism, one has to wonder what will be next. Perhaps Warren's church will sponsor a "designated driver's ministry" at every bar in its locale.

Appalling though Obama's inclusion in the conference may be, it is nonetheless entirely consistent with Warren's behavior from the beginning.

Leading a megachurch in the culturally disintegrating landscape of Southern California, Warren certainly knows that his prospects of maximizing the "flock" will be greatly enhanced as long as he shows proper deference to the real religion of the area, "political correctness."

In this, his Christian populism movement has proven to be far more palatable to the God-hating secularists of the surrounding communities than such stodgy, old-fashioned and "intolerant" notions as "Thou Shalt Not." And the Warren influence has been predictable wherever it can be found.

If other churches that abide in the Warren philosophy, such as Chicago's gargantuan "Willow Creek," were to truly uphold Christian values among their enormous congregations, they would certainly be a constant "thorn in the side" of their surrounding populace, acculturated into the modernism as those communities certainly are. Yet an amazing degree of compatibility and congeniality exists between the Warren Church model and the social structures of Chicago and Southern California.

The tradeoff between true Christian principle and acceptability to the locals is apparently worth the spiritual sacrifice it entails, with expanding parking lots, increasingly lavish facilities and, of course, fuller collection plates bearing witness. Meanwhile, such churches offer ever less of a worthwhile and much-needed alternative to the ailing world around them.

Ultimately, Warren gives conformist Christians, wearied from their ongoing battle with a world that is increasingly hostile to true Christian faith, an apparent "out" by offering a version that the modern world can find more acceptable while remaining in its present spiritual darkness.

Many among Warren's vast following have made the mistake, in light of his "purpose driven" ministering, of presuming, at the heart of the movement, a Christ-driven purpose. Yet as Warren's real character continues to be revealed, it is becoming apparent that members of that following are presuming too much.

(Christopher G. Adamo is a freelance writer and staff writer for the New Media Alliance. He lives in southeastern Wyoming and has been active in local and state politics for many years.)


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To: Don Joe
And now, on an entirely non-satirical note, we live in interesting times. Interesting and terrifying times.

Christianity has been subverted from within.

Just as "the left" has subverted government from within -- and the "mainstream" churches -- it is now chipping away at the foundations of Biblical Christianity from within, having insinuated itself into positions of power and influence. And it is meeting with little resistance, and much success.

i see it a bit differently, and so do some others.

John McAuthur has referred to this as what he called "Fundamentalists who have accepted the Liberal Hermeneutic". i see it as far simpler than that.

i am a Presbyterian, a member of a small, conservative Presbyterian denomination. Many of our congregations and ministers came out of the apostate, liberal mainline denomination.

While our confession is conservative, and our ministers bible beleiving, they still tend to do business the same way they did when they were in that Mainline denomination.

The corruption and backroom deals remain.

The reason for this is that the church (pick a denomination) is insufficiently reformed. The Reformation of the church is supposed to be on-going and all pervasive.

There are several things that do not need to be reformed...even within Roman Catholicism there are creeds which were carried on into the Reformation. Those were good things that needed no reform.

The reformation needed is to realise that we can't continue to 'do business' as the corrupt denominations we left still conduct business. That process needs be reformed.

If it's not reformed, our "method" will result in the corruption and decay of our churches from the inside, because error begets error.

861 posted on 01/02/2007 11:41:28 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Don Joe
You've made some very good points, things I had not even considered. The implications of Warren and how the media and others are swarming to him like bees to a hive is disconcerting.

Warren, as well as a lot of the other "big church" preachers stike me as false prophets and intuitively someone to steer clear of... I watched Joel Olstein on Larry King over the holiday and the same thing, he may be a nice guy, but to have the following he does is a little scary to me. I guess I remember to well Jim and Tammy Baker.

862 posted on 01/02/2007 11:43:22 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
In this particular case, the media was also fooled. Informatin was pretty hard to get, and it was days before the bodies were discovered. Remember, it was a pretty isolated place.

Lots of mischeif could have happened in that time interval.

If anything, any cover up would have been because Jones rubbed elbows with lots of important people, including Ruth Carter Stapleton, the Sister of President Carter, and a well known speaker in the Charismatic movement.

While Stapleton was certainly NOT involved with any wrongdoing connected with Jones and the People's Temple, her slight association with Jones would have caused the Carter Administration a great deal of grief that it did not need at that time...as the events of 1979 would certainly prove.
863 posted on 01/02/2007 11:48:17 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: SandyInSeattle
Interesting that you think expressing one's opinion about the tone of the comments here is considered to be "extremely judgemental", but so be it. I stand by my observation.

And how are your opinions benign, but our opinions judgemental?

864 posted on 01/02/2007 11:54:55 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
I hadn't thought of that, but you make some excellent points there and heaven knows, Carter certainly had a lot of "friends" in that part of the world who with some quid-pro-quo would help him out.

and, yes, I do remember how desolate it was there.

865 posted on 01/02/2007 11:55:18 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord; blue-duncan
As to your last post to me, i suggest that you take up getting pinged to these threads with Dr. Eckleburg. i'm certain that you and the good Doctor can come to some sort of accomodation.

LOL. My New Year's resolution is to ping everyone I know until they agree with me.

Prepare to be pung into submission, you two. 8~)

866 posted on 01/03/2007 12:00:20 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Don Joe
You are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

RIGHT!

It is a falling away. Ignorant people are falling all over themselves for it. Ministers are desperate to "save" people with a false Gospel. It's a slow seduction. They don't start out that way ... but slowly as the numbers climb for a shallow sermon and entertainment, their ego swells and the move further away from Biblical teachings since the audience prefers "fun", and relativism. They also don't want to offend anyone - all are happy!
867 posted on 01/03/2007 4:19:31 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; Corin Stormhands
Prepare to be pung into submission, you two. 8~)

Ping, pang, pung. Makes sense to me. :>)

But in a dualistic universe all one really needs to realize is the

Ping

and the

Pang

868 posted on 01/03/2007 4:58:00 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Rick Warren doesn't take a salary. After his book took off he went to Saddleback and asked them to calculate how much they had paid him since he worked there. When they gave him the figure, he wrote that amount back to the church. Rick Warren also tithes 90% to his church and does not take a salary.

Oh we KNOW! Warren tells us every chance he gets. He's not only a good steward, he's humble too!

869 posted on 01/03/2007 5:02:30 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: Don Joe
Like worker bees, driven to a frenzy by pheromone signals, they will attack whatever they perceive as a "threat" to The Hive. No thinking involved, no need to understand, to comprehend... just a primal obedience to chemical signals.

That's about the best analogy I've heard. Beats anything I've ever seen.

870 posted on 01/03/2007 5:07:11 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Marysecretary
Tiger is something. Did you hear he's going to be a daddy?

Just heard that yesterday! With those genes, the cub will be the world's best-looking child.
871 posted on 01/03/2007 6:54:49 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Gamecock
And how are your opinions benign, but our opinions judgemental?

I don't believe I used the word "judgemental" to describe anyone on this board. If I did, please point me to the post where I said it and I'll apologize.

872 posted on 01/03/2007 7:16:12 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Goodbye, Tomas. Sleep well. (? 1994-Dec 6, 2006))
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To: SandyInSeattle
790:Interesting that you think expressing one's opinion about the tone of the comments

Well excuse me. I base my wording based on definitions.

From Websters:

opin·ion
Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin opinion-, opinio, from opinari
1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

judg·ment
Variant(s): or judge·ment /'j&j-m&nt/
Function: noun
1 a : a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b : an opinion so pronounced

873 posted on 01/03/2007 7:25:52 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock

I'm not playing word games with you, Gamecock.

There is a difference between making a personal observation as to general tone and being personally accused of being "extremely judgemental". If you can't see it, I can't help you.

Last word is yours. Make it count.


874 posted on 01/03/2007 7:36:15 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Goodbye, Tomas. Sleep well. (? 1994-Dec 6, 2006))
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To: nmh; blue-duncan
The method and the message are inseperable...They are the same thing.

Warren's method, according to The Purpose Driven Church, is to shape the gospel message according to people's felt needs (psycholigical needs=to feel important, to feel like you belong, etc.) , which Warren considers the key to their heart.

Of course this method/message is not the true gospel.

875 posted on 01/03/2007 8:14:36 AM PST by pby
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To: Xenalyte

For sure.


876 posted on 01/03/2007 8:21:45 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Don Joe; Jo Nuvark; nmh; Sue Perkick; TommyDale; Arizona Carolyn; DocRock; Gamecock

"There is such a thing as being "unequally yoked with unbelievers," and I do believe that Master Rick has mastered it."

When (point of time) were the disciples saved?


877 posted on 01/03/2007 8:22:06 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Jo Nuvark
Has Warren ever said that he tithes 90% to his church?

Or did he use some of the 90% to fund the PEACE Plan, his AIDS work and possibly another foundation?

And whatever happened to Matthew 6:1-4?

"Be careful not to do your acts of righteousness before men, to be seen by them...do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing..."

878 posted on 01/03/2007 8:30:11 AM PST by pby
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To: blue-duncan
The guy at A. Roger's old church...why?

He is just following the Purpose Driven method (as I understand the problems there)?

879 posted on 01/03/2007 8:36:21 AM PST by pby
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To: pby

"He is just following the Purpose Driven method (as I understand the problems there)?"

No, he is following his own method of implementing the "Purpose Driven Church" method. However his problem is more for ignoring indiscretions in his staff from what I read, and then covering it up.


880 posted on 01/03/2007 8:40:51 AM PST by blue-duncan
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