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1 posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:20 AM PST by Gamecock
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he certainly faces no possibility of in-depth scrutiny from the "mainstream media," as his brand of "Christianity" poses little or no threat to their liberal social agenda.

I think that sums it up rather nicely.

2 posted on 12/31/2006 8:43:09 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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3 posted on 12/31/2006 8:44:39 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Without Free Republic, this kind of stuff would never get out. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 12/31/2006 8:47:14 AM PST by CAWats (The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God for the pulling down of strongholds)
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The more I see and hear of Warren, the less I trust him or believe anything he says. Anyone who calls himself an "evangelical Christian" who receives, and basks in, so much fawning adulation by the Drive By Media is almost automatically suspect in my book, his sucking up to the likes of Assad and Barack Obama aside.


5 posted on 12/31/2006 8:53:33 AM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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Bill Clinton is also very good at seeming to tell people what they want to hear. Is Warren that kind of guy?


8 posted on 12/31/2006 8:55:53 AM PST by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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10 posted on 12/31/2006 8:58:21 AM PST by sauropod ("Men would appreciate women's minds more if they bounced gently when they walked. ")
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11 posted on 12/31/2006 9:00:56 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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Luke 7:34


17 posted on 12/31/2006 9:05:20 AM PST by mnehring (Virtus Junxit mors non Separabit)
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My first reaction to Warren embracing Obama was "better to have your friends close and your enemies closer".

Let's not assume Obama has the position of persuasion. He could learn something from Warren that might benefit all of us, i.e. truth is NOT relative.


27 posted on 12/31/2006 9:19:52 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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Rick Warren curries favor with the world and especially, its godless media. Contrast what they say about him and what they say about Ann Coulter, and the point becomes very clear. He is a media-created fad and will be old news soon, as they create the next "prophet."


32 posted on 12/31/2006 9:28:27 AM PST by kittymyrib
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I gather there's been an official deal struck: Rick Warren and his church will become the safe cover for the Democratic Party in their attempt to neutralize the Republican leanings of the Evangelicals. It might be interesting to trace recent, large donations to the church, and see if there are Dem donor connections, especially from folks without obvious Christian leanings.

The other part of the Dem strategy is fictitious organizations like this one, called "www.faithandfamilyvalues.org," which is run by a former Clinton operative, and sends out pretend-right-wing Evangelical mailings attacking Republicans for being too soft on moral issues—solely for the purpose of suppressing the Evangelical vote.

I got a card from them in the last election, and if you're a politically involved Evangelical or Catholic, you see right through it, but maybe some people are slow on the uptake.

36 posted on 12/31/2006 9:38:26 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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Another splendid article by another Jr Accuser of the Bretheren.


38 posted on 12/31/2006 9:50:40 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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I entered the words Rick Warren > cheap grace, and got a few hits. This article may interest you:

Spirit-Led or Purpose-Driven? Part 1 by Berit Kjos, November 2003

it can be found at :
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2003/1-purpose.htm

Here is an excerpt:

" Thousands of small groups using Saddleback's study guide and Teaching Video for the 40 Days of Purpose are led in a slightly longer prayer. They hear Pastor Warren speak these words:

"Do you have a relationship with Jesus Christ? If you aren't sure of this, I'd like the privilege of leading you in a prayer to settle the issue. Let's bow our heads. I'm going to pray a prayer and you can follow it silently in your mind:

'Dear God, I want to know Your purpose for my life. I don't want to waste the rest of my life on the wrong things. Today I want to take the first step in preparing for eternity by getting to know You. Jesus Christ, I don't understand it all, but as much as I know how, I want to open my life to You. I ask you to come into my life and make yourself real to me. Use this series to help me know what You made me for. Thank you. Amen.'

"If you just prayed that prayer for the very first time, I congratulate you. You've just become a part of the family of God."

Is this a response to the gospel? Where is repentance, acknowledgement of need, or confession of personal sin? Where is the cross? The Bible tells us that saving "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." [Romans 10:17-18] But none of the Scriptures that show the gospel are mentioned in this first lesson. Biblically illiterate friends and neighbors who join the group would pray this prayer without any real knowledge of the cross, of the Savior, or of God's view of sin. In fact, the meaning of salvation isn't included in the first lesson. And if it had been there, the context of the lesson would suggest that we are merely saved from a purposeless life -- not from bondage to sin."



39 posted on 12/31/2006 9:51:04 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Good article. Thanks for posting.

Thankfully, Warren has shown his true colors.


41 posted on 12/31/2006 9:54:38 AM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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Thanks for posting this. I would hesitate to throw the baby out with the bathwater here regardless of Warren's foibles and idiotic statements because I think the vanilla preachers have their place in Christiandom, filling a niche for people who wouldn't otherwise be interested.

I go to a "mega-church" which loosely follows the willow creek model, and quite frankly the sermons are full of pap and pablum. The music are all 7/11 songs...7 words repeated 11 times...they suck.

However, it is in the small groups and bible studies where the "mega-churches" succeed IMHO.....better than the smaller churches in my experience.

As for Warren himself I do not see any blantant heresy or evil doctrine like you might find on some of the showbiz preacher shows on TBN. Perhaps he should stick to pablum pushing and running his organization and keep out of politics.
44 posted on 12/31/2006 10:06:23 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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47 posted on 12/31/2006 10:16:17 AM PST by rawhide
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Warren's comments about Syria are indefensible, but I think he is getting a bum rap about hosting Obama to speak at a symposium about the Africa AIDS issue. That should not be treated as a partisan or ideological issue, but as simply a humanitarian issue IMO. It is not healthy to the public square for everything to be all politics all the time.
51 posted on 12/31/2006 10:30:29 AM PST by Torie
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Rick Warren. Sociopath?
62 posted on 12/31/2006 10:45:28 AM PST by upchuck (How to win the WOT? Simple: set our rules of engagement to at least match those of our enemy.)
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youre still having fun with this guy huh ?

Happy New Year GC !

93 posted on 12/31/2006 11:15:56 AM PST by Revelation 911
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It's nothing against Evangelicals to say that there is NO church that doesn't have its bad apples and hypocrites. That is certainly true of my own Catholic Church, it's certainly true of the Protestand Mainline Churches, and it's true of the Evangelical Churches as well.

The MSM and the leftists will pretend it's just a true revelation of what these churches really are. No, it's just human nature in a fallen world. Even the twelve apostles included one traitor. God doesn't force anyone to be good, He gives them the choice and the grace to be good, but they can refuse it, and parasites can always come along, play the hypocrite, and feed on the faithful. But they usually show glimpses of themselves, and those with discrimination will respond accordingly.


98 posted on 12/31/2006 11:36:17 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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