Posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:18 AM PST by Gamecock
I read the article at the link. I see nothing where Warren dismissed the islamic conversion as a big "so what", he merely stated that it was a conversion of necessity in prison.
The article looks chopped up, like the author just pulled snippets out of the conversation. It's hard to tell what Warren actually thought about it without seeing the statements on either side of the quote.
Do you have other articles?
I'm sure that's true. My situation is a little different.
Nice effort. Though facts don't seem to make much difference on such threads.
Now, now, you were doing so well, let's not slip back into the game, shall we? :)
There is no denying that you led us on a chase, dangling a carrot, so to speak, laboring to lead us to a certain conclusion. To do that -- to mislead like that -- and then taunt your opposites for having drawn the wrong conclusion, bad form, very bad form. Sort of a really narsty form of deus ex machina.
Ok, i'm really sorry, but i have to call you on this one old friend.
i call BS.
i am that person that you mention.
As i recall, you claimed to have stopped reading the article after this "misrepresentation".
Funny that you're willing to give Warren et al the benefit of the doubt over his 'misstatements', yet not willing to concede that the author you're presently criticising might have made an error. Since you claim to have quit reading the article, you have no idea what was entailed in the rest of the article.
Would you like to discuss Warren's misrepresentation of scripture in order to support the questionable positions he presents in the PDC/PDL?
I'm afraid I can't participate in a book burning as you suggest. My copies have all been trashed already. I must have cost the local church a few hundred dollars in "lost" books just on my own.
BAAAAHAHAHA!
no prob.
A little while back, our church went through the Purpose Driven Church program. It received rave reviews, but I had a weird feeling about the whole thing. Nothing substantive, but the videos and book just seemed to me to be lacking. I remember telling my wife something to the effect that we'll not be too happy if we find Warren is not the pastor we think him to be. I think we are now at that point. More and more, I am finding Warren to be the evangelical for the Oprah generation.
Ping to Quix wanting to stamp out all dissent.
All your churches belong to Warren.
But the game is fun... well, when you have time. ;-)
Yes, I led you on... and on purpose! Sorry, couldn't help it again.
Before any of the Saddleback apologists accuse me of stealing or burning Warren's books, let me state on the record that all I have done is ask people to research. They have done their own burning.
I read the article at the link. I see nothing where Warren dismissed the islamic conversion as a big "so what", he merely stated that it was a conversion of necessity in prison.The article looks chopped up, like the author just pulled snippets out of the conversation. It's hard to tell what Warren actually thought about it without seeing the statements on either side of the quote.
Do you have other articles?
Well, that's your take on it, and mine is that it's not at all ambiguous that that is precisely what he's doing.
No, I don't have "other articles" on it, although I suspect they're out there for the spelunking. I'm not going to do it. If YOU want to, then be my guest. I've made my point, you've disagreed with it, and the readers can make up their own minds.
MY life is too short (FAR too short, at this point) to play those kind of games with y'all.
SOUNDS LIKE a stealing-and-trashing-books-for-Jesus ministry.
What a novel idea.
(Where can I get a new set of sides? Cheap??? :)
Perhaps, not a lot of difference between the two.
Glad that was clarified.
Can't have any misguided impressions on a RW bashing thread.
As I said earlier, as iron sharpens iron, my friend...
i call BS. As i recall, you claimed to have stopped reading the article after this "misrepresentation".
That's not completely true. I eventually read the entire article but I stopped responding to the points after the first point was such a blatant misrepresentation. Anything so blatantly untrue as what that author tried to pass off as fact really comes across as purposely deceitful. After that I lost complete interest in the rest of his points.
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