Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Math Pop Quiz Stumps Teacher Union Head
Daily News ^ | December 28 | Erin Einhorn

Posted on 12/30/2006 9:36:31 AM PST by achilles2000

Math pop quiz stumps Randi

BY ERIN EINHORN DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Talk about a high-stakes test. The radio audience was live and the question for teachers union president Randi Weingarten involved sixth-grade math: "What's 1/3rd plus 1/4th?"...

Mike Pesca, who was filling in for Lehrer, introduced the show's education topic by saying American college grads can't do basic math while high school grads in Canada and middle-schoolers in India have no trouble.

After Weingarten stumbled, another guest quickly produced the correct answer: 7/12ths, leaving Weingarten to explain herself.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arithmetic; education; math; maths; nea; schools; teachersunions
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 181-197 next last
To: RavenATB
"Try that one with 2/3 + 1/7"

Looks like 17/21 to me...

Mee Too..but not by the professor's method

61 posted on 12/30/2006 10:21:14 AM PST by evad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: achilles2000
introduced the show's education topic by saying American college grads can't do basic math while high school grads in Canada and middle-schoolers in India have no trouble.

American kids are taught to hate math at an early age. The educators make it as painful and tedious as possible while not showing any practical purpose for any of it. When the students hit high school, they're only required to take two math classes. After being taught for 10 years that it's boring crap with no purpose, most of them take Algebra 1 and Basic Geometry freshmen and sophomore year, do the minimum effort to pull a C, then brain-dump it and never look back.

62 posted on 12/30/2006 10:21:40 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." - GW Bush, referring to DNC's lack of a platform on ANYTHING)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: achilles2000

I transferred from P.S. 45 in Ozone Park (Queens) to Christ the King Grammar School in third grade in 1958. This makes me appreciate what I owe the Dominican Sisters.


63 posted on 12/30/2006 10:21:54 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The artist doesn't have to have all the answers; he must, however, ask the right questions honestly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: durasell

That might be true in theory. In practice, the bosses run the union.

Besides, my point is that the teachers' unions are run by people who think math is big and scary.


64 posted on 12/30/2006 10:26:34 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: secretagent

the greatness of the common denominator ;-)


65 posted on 12/30/2006 10:30:42 AM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: secretagent

actually since we are working with recipricals add the 3 and 4 together and they become the top number of the fraction...then multiple the 3 and 4 together and they become the bottom number of the fraction....i think?


66 posted on 12/30/2006 10:30:51 AM PST by po'boy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: AmishDude

The NYC teachers union is a weird beast. The rank and file is very active. And the bosses have to kowtow to them. I have a friend in it and there was an open revolt regarding the last pay increase.

On the other hand, the amount on money they control gives them huge power over guys like Bloomberg. During the 1970s, it was the unions that bailed out NYC in the financial crisis with deals done late at night.


67 posted on 12/30/2006 10:31:01 AM PST by durasell (!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: TX Bluebonnet

Yours is the way I was tought to add fractions ... easy and works every time .... just amazing!


68 posted on 12/30/2006 10:32:30 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: AmishDude

p.s. Why do you think Bloomberg put Klein -- a corporate lawyer -- in charge of the schools?


69 posted on 12/30/2006 10:32:47 AM PST by durasell (!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: RavenATB

I forgot to emphasize PUBLIC school teachers!


70 posted on 12/30/2006 10:33:04 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou

He just leads the charge and sets the example!

I'm sooooooooo unimpressed.


71 posted on 12/30/2006 10:33:46 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: achilles2000
From the article:

Math expert Alfred Posamentier, dean of the City College school of education, said most Americans can't add fractions in their heads, leaving Weingarten in good company. "I hate to say it, but I would cut her slack on that one," he said.

And there lies the problem: Most Americans should be able to add simple fractions and perform other basic calculations in their heads, and the fact that they can't is further evidence that many of our public schools and the people who teach there are not getting the job done.

72 posted on 12/30/2006 10:35:02 AM PST by Labyrinthos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: achilles2000
On the one hand, I sympathize with Ms. Weingarten. I'm not a natural speaker, and when I'm put on the spot in front of a crowd, my brain tends to shut down. I will admit to having confused my audience's left and their right, forgotten the name of a long-time acquaintance sitting near me, and other embarrassing incidents. Put on the spot, I might forget simple math, too.

On the other hand, this was an embarrassingly elementary math problem. I don't think any professional adult should admit to this level of innumeracy and expect to get away unscathed. She might as well have added, "I don't read good, but I can sound words out."

73 posted on 12/30/2006 10:35:27 AM PST by Caesar Soze
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RavenATB; nmh

No, public school teachers don't "report" to that moron. Yes, I suppose he does lead the charge for those who choose to join his merry band.


74 posted on 12/30/2006 10:37:08 AM PST by Clara Lou
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: AmishDude
I know plenty of people on this thread say that they can't add fractions, but they aren't the chief educator of a major teacher's union.

The fact that they can't add the fractions is further evidence of the incompetence of the public school system.

75 posted on 12/30/2006 10:37:16 AM PST by Labyrinthos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: durasell

I have to say that the NYC schools are a different monster altogether.

Instead of most kids who are stuck in neighborhood schools, the smart ones can take the subway to Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech or Stuyvesant. It works against the awful move against tracking in schools.

In any case, schools are becoming more legalistic and I would have to guess Klein was put in mostly to negotiate contracts.


76 posted on 12/30/2006 10:38:18 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: secretagent
First you have to find a dominator.

And then does the submissive go on top of the dominator, or is it the other way around? That's new math, right?

77 posted on 12/30/2006 10:39:21 AM PST by seowulf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: achilles2000

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.


78 posted on 12/30/2006 10:39:54 AM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: evad
It works, of course. It is indeed the same process as "getting a common denominator".... without supporting reasoning - valid nevertheless.

The 2/3 is different than previous examples b/c the numerator is a number other than 1.

The professor's process still works, but because the reasoning is omitted, most didn't know that the numerators are multiplied by the other denominator before they're added - when the numerators were 1 it didn't matter.

79 posted on 12/30/2006 10:42:27 AM PST by Principled
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: TX Bluebonnet

Thanks! Bookmarkin' that!

(I'm afraid my math skills have become rather rusty!)


80 posted on 12/30/2006 10:42:57 AM PST by JennysCool (Well done, President Ford.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 181-197 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson