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Krugman's Cockroaches
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/29/2006 5:16:49 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: MurryMom

Do you like to post to prove just how stupid you are?


41 posted on 12/29/2006 8:10:40 AM PST by Mo1
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To: sphinx
...benefits will have to be cut by a quarter or thereabouts...

If SS benefits will have to be cut by a quarter or thereabouts, some Republican politicians should propose such action as part of their 2008 platform. How many seats in the House and Senate will be changed from D to R as a result of their adoption of the "quarter or thereabouts SS check reduction" plan?

42 posted on 12/29/2006 8:11:12 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom
The trust fund is not funded by any gold or other hard assets

You mean like private accounts holding stocks and bonds? That's a great idea!

43 posted on 12/29/2006 8:12:03 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: maryz
... former Enron advisor Paul Krugman?

That should be required in all press references, to balance their mandatory decorated Vietnam veteran John Kerry.

44 posted on 12/29/2006 8:13:10 AM PST by dighton
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To: MurryMom
Neoconservativism is a term used by Iring Kristol and other Republcans to describe their system of political beliefs having much in common with fascism.

Back it up.

Define fascism. Define neoconservatism.

I bet you can't.

45 posted on 12/29/2006 8:13:26 AM PST by sauropod ("Men would appreciate women's minds more if they bounced gently when they walked. ")
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To: MurryMom
If SS benefits will have to be cut by a quarter or thereabouts, some Republican politicians should propose such action as part of their 2008 platform.

No need to propose anything. Lack of action, guaranteed by Democratic refusal to reform SS, will bring it about automatically.

46 posted on 12/29/2006 8:17:29 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: sauropod
Yes I can. All you need to do is access one or more of the following references, or look up the term on wikipedia.org.

Leo Strauss and the Politics of American Empire by Anne Norton (Paperback - Oct 11, 2005)

Leo Strauss and the American Right by Shadia B. Drury (Paperback - Feb 15, 1999)

The leading neocon organization besides the Repbulican Party is The Project for the New American Century, with a website at:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/lettersstatements.htm

47 posted on 12/29/2006 8:57:48 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You mean like private accounts holding stocks and bonds?

Disregarding the sarcasm and cynicism in your post, we can expect that bonds in the SS fund will be backed up by stocks and/or bonds about the same time that bonds held by banks in Russia, China, India, Venezuela, et al., are backed up by hard assets like stocks.

IOW, never.

48 posted on 12/29/2006 9:00:40 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom
Disregarding the sarcasm and cynicism in your post, we can expect that bonds in the SS fund will be backed up by stocks and/or bonds about the same time that bonds held by banks in Russia, China, India, Venezuela, et al., are backed up by hard assets like stocks.

You misunderstand. If private accounts held stocks and bonds, there would be no need for bonds to be held in the SS fund.

49 posted on 12/29/2006 9:04:18 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: MurryMom
If SS benefits will have to be cut by a quarter or thereabouts, some Republican politicians should propose such action as part of their 2008 platform. How many seats in the House and Senate will be changed from D to R as a result of their adoption of the "quarter or thereabouts SS check reduction" plan?

Why should a Republican propose the democrats' bitter medicine? Benefit cuts and higher taxes are the dem plan. The Republican approach avoids most of the pain. Yes, there will be costs to finance the transition to investment accounts, but these are far less than the eventual costs of doing nothing.

I do not want to attribute motives to you, but clearly the democrats are playing hidden agenda politics on the issue. Why would they prefer lower to higher benefits and higher to lower taxes? It is crazy unless retirement security is secondary to other goals. I am driven to the conclusion that democrats want people dependent on a government program. They would rather have retirees poor and dependent than financially indendent and therefore more likely to vote Republican. SS is simply a way to organize and discipline their base vote.

I also suspect that the hard-left types desperately want to avoid moving all Americans into the owner/investor class, even on a small scale. Socialist and anti-corporate tub-thumping will lose most of its appeal when the wrench turners and bus drivers start checking their accounts every morning. The fascist left doesn't want broad-based ownership of wealth; it wants government ownership of wealth.

50 posted on 12/29/2006 9:07:06 AM PST by sphinx
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

As a proud cockroach I must say that in the end we will take over the world.


51 posted on 12/29/2006 10:40:05 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: MurryMom

IBTZ?


52 posted on 12/29/2006 11:51:24 PM PST by jurroppi1 ("You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think." - Milton Berle)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
[ By noting that "more than a few families would notice the disappearance of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid." No doubt. There's only one problem. Republicans never called for the abolition of any of those programs. So who's lying now? ]

IF the democrats sunset-ed the Social Security System(SSA) which is PURE socialism... PURE socialism.. Most republicans would gouge out their EYES.. throw dust in the air.. and rip their clothing.. and get all compassionate...

So much for anti-socialist republicans..

53 posted on 12/30/2006 12:08:20 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Who is Paul Krugman?


54 posted on 12/30/2006 6:15:01 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: MurryMom

MurryMom! Where have you been? Back off your meds, I see.


55 posted on 12/30/2006 6:18:19 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Lee'sGhost; MurryMom
SS fund

Funnee! Someone actually believes there's something called a "SS fund">

56 posted on 12/30/2006 6:21:21 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Fresh Wind
"Isn't "neocon" a code word for "Jew"?"

I think that's what it means this week. I'm not sure. It seems to change almost monthly. At this point it means nothing. I believe neoCOMs (liberals/Communists) like to use because it sounds similar to neo-nazi.
57 posted on 12/30/2006 6:22:25 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
"it consists of U.S. Govt. I.O.U's backd up by nothing."

And how far could you or I get at the bank keeping books like that?........Not many folks recall LBJ covering his a$$ ( and DEM spending) by combining the 'budgets.'

58 posted on 12/30/2006 6:45:48 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: litehaus
There is going to be a day of reckoning for all of this.

Won't be pleasant that is for sure.

59 posted on 12/30/2006 7:10:38 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Neoconservatism is a political movement, mainly in the United States, which is generally held to have emerged in the 1960s, coalesced in the 1970s, and has had a significant presence in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

The prefix neo- refers to two ways in which neoconservatism was new. First, many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism. Also, neoconservatism was a comparatively recent strain of conservative socio-political thought. It derived from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II, including literary criticism and the social sciences.

Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz and others described themselves as neoconservatives during the Cold War. In general, however, the movement's critics use the term more often than supporters. In fact, some people described as "neocons" today say that neoconservatism no longer exists as an identifiable movement.

Many associate neoconservatism with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard, along with the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

More details here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservativism

60 posted on 12/30/2006 11:44:40 AM PST by MurryMom
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