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Group: Iranians were part of elite force
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Posted on 12/28/2006 2:08:31 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Group: Iranians were part of elite force

By SLOBODAN LEKIC, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago

Two Iranians detained by U.S. forces in Iraq were senior members of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards and had coordinated attacks against coalition troops and Iraqi civilians, the head of an Iranian opposition group said Thursday.

The White House said earlier this week that U.S. troops had caught a group of Iranians in a raid on suspected insurgents in Iraq. Two of the men had diplomatic immunity and were released them to Iran, but the other two were kept in custody.

Maryam Rajavi, who heads the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NICR), an anti-regime umbrella group based in Paris, said the two men being held were senior members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Qods force and were responsible for sectarian attacks in Iraq.

She cited the group's intelligence officials as the source of the information.

It was not possible to independently verify Rajavi's claim, but the group has provided relatively accurate information on developments in Iran over the past several years, including details on the country's secretive nuclear program.

In Washington, a Pentagon official said Thursday that U.S. forces had found "indications and evidence that all of the people rounded up, including the two Iranians, are involved in the transfer of IED technologies from Iran to Iraq." IED stands for improvised explosive devices, or small bombs that are commonly used in attacks in Iraq.

The U.S. military has confirmed that troops found documents, but it was not clear if any actual explosives were found.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information has not yet been made public, said that U.S. forces are currently working out ways to turn over the Iranians to the Iraqis, but

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To: Canard
Pinging to you since you wrote this and apparently accept it as correct. "Blair is also one of the strongest advocates of dialogue with Iran and a staunch believer that Iran has a role to play in restoring stability in Iraq."
21 posted on 12/28/2006 3:00:37 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Syria and Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel will all be secure.)
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To: Williams

"If accurate, this should mean military action or threat of serious action against Iran. I see zero sign of either. Bush ought to add a zero tolerance policy to his new approach.
Politics leads to a sell out of our troops. There ought to be calls for retaliation against any nation that is killing our soldiers. But while conservatives don't want to criticize Bush, the democrats want to prevent any military action against Iran. So we have no one calling for a more aggressive reaction."

The real question is why we haven't a least conducted special opps to blow up a government building near the mullahs, torch an oil field or something else nasty to send the message to these people that 'we can touch you'. Bush is going to be remembered by half of America as the worst POTUS ever so he may as well take his shot to protect us and send the enemy the message.


22 posted on 12/28/2006 3:19:14 PM PST by quantfive
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To: RobRoy
I really think something is afoot.

I'm with you. From the ISG report being ignored (as it should have been)to the talk of surging troops.... Not to mention Rummy leaving. I think a new phase of the war is about to be opened in the next 30-60 days now that elections are no longer a factor.

23 posted on 12/28/2006 3:31:50 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Sub-Driver
U.S. forces are currently working out ways to turn over the Iranians to the Iraqis

Preferably in bite sized chunks.

24 posted on 12/28/2006 3:59:07 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Mike Darancette

I hope that is for dog food and not for the Iraqi's.


25 posted on 12/28/2006 4:06:50 PM PST by westmichman (The will of God always trumps the will of the people.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"I'm with you. From the ISG report being ignored (as it should have been)to the talk of surging troops.... Not to mention Rummy leaving. I think a new phase of the war is about to be opened in the next 30-60 days now that elections are no longer a factor."

Agree 100%, it looks like the stage is being set.

1) Rumsfeld is out. I liked him a lot - he rebuilt the military after the Sinkmaster sunk it. But he carries a lot of baggage and Bush doesn't need the headache of the pundidiots screeching about him during a campaign.

2) More troops being sent to Iraq. The extra troops are to free up some for strikes into Iran.

3) Iraq Study Group - Bush used this for his famous rope a dope. After the election the news idiots thought they saw a "new Bush" who would follow the ISG recs and cave in to the Dems. He actually got some good press from this and it shifts attention from the real moves being made.

4) Drip drip drip announcement after announcement about the Iranians fueling the violence in Iraq.

I hope we're both right. Iran with nukes is not acceptable.


26 posted on 12/28/2006 8:48:20 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Now accepting tagline donations.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Going to bed agreement bump!


27 posted on 12/28/2006 8:53:59 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

["2) More troops being sent to Iraq. The extra troops are to free up some for strikes into Iran. "]

Okay, before you put your foot in your mouth, why don't you tell the rest of the world when the strikes are going to occur in Iran?


28 posted on 12/28/2006 10:25:27 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Sub-Driver

Let the Tomahawks fly...!


29 posted on 12/29/2006 1:29:12 AM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

"Okay, before you put your foot in your mouth, why don't you tell the rest of the world when the strikes are going to occur in Iran?"

I have no idea. My guess is that if it's going to happen, it will be before summer.


30 posted on 12/29/2006 4:07:52 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Now accepting tagline donations.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why the heck did they release the two? Stupid stupid stupid.
31 posted on 12/29/2006 4:29:25 PM PST by JasonC
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To: elhombrelibre

"Pinging to you since you wrote this and apparently accept it as correct. "Blair is also one of the strongest advocates of dialogue with Iran and a staunch believer that Iran has a role to play in restoring stability in Iraq.""

Yes, that is correct. It's not really clear whether you're saying that I'm wrong about Tony Blair's views on Iran, or that Blair's views on Iran are wrong?


32 posted on 12/30/2006 4:30:22 AM PST by Canard
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To: Canard
The theory, then, is to secure the hen house chat with the fox.
33 posted on 12/30/2006 7:37:55 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Syria and Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel will all be secure.)
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To: elhombrelibre

That's pretty much been the guiding principle behind British (and American) Middle Eastern policy over the past 60 years.


34 posted on 12/30/2006 7:57:57 AM PST by Canard
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To: Canard

It looks like the guiding principle has changed. I hope you don't mind too much.


35 posted on 12/30/2006 8:22:53 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Syria and Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel will all be secure.)
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To: elhombrelibre
"It looks like the guiding principle has changed. I hope you don't mind too much."

Just to re-emphasise, I'm not Tony Blair. Improbably, this does seem to be a point of confusion.

36 posted on 12/30/2006 8:24:58 AM PST by Canard
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To: JasonC

What the hell happened to "you're with us or against us?" Do something, Bush. For God's sake, please challenge Iran.


37 posted on 12/30/2006 8:28:18 AM PST by Uncle Billy ("A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away all you have")
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To: Canard
I don't know why you're confused, but just keep telling yourself that "I'm not Tony Blair" and you'll be fine soon.

By the way, Saddam is hung. I'm sure that's the best news you've heard in a while, right?

38 posted on 12/30/2006 8:30:04 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Syria and Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel will all be secure.)
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To: elhombrelibre

"I don't know why you're confused, but just keep telling yourself that "I'm not Tony Blair" and you'll be fine soon."

You're attacking Blair's views on Iran, yet somehow you appear to believe that you're attacking me, on the basis that I made a statement in another thread on what Blair's views are. It's really quite strange.

"By the way, Saddam is hung. I'm sure that's the best news you've heard in a while, right?"

Slightly off topic? If I were a socialist British prime minister with an annoying penchant for snappy yet meaningless soundbites, then I'd reply that my government doesn't support the use of the death penalty but that it was a matter for the Iraqi people to decide and we support their decision as a sovereign nation :)


39 posted on 12/30/2006 8:39:16 AM PST by Canard
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To: Canard
I'm not happy with Blair's willingness to treat the Iranians mullah's and their lackey government as a real government enjoying the support of a self-ruling nation. You are correct that I'm attacking that view of Blair's. I think it's dangerously naive to think Iranian government will pursue the interests of their own people or the Iraqis right now, especially since they're sending agents into Iraq to kill Brits, Americans, Sunnis, and other coalition forces. That's why I sent you the updated on the subject. You appear not to have been able to discern that these captured men were agents of the Iranian government sent into Iraq to cause further chaos. Or if you can understand it, you think that's fine. Or you think that I think you're Tony Blair. I do not.

I asked you about Saddam to get your opinion. So you give me Blair's again. And you say I'm the one who is confused about who you are.

Why is it a meaningless statement, by the way, if that's what Blair said about Saddam's execution? Do the Iraqis not have the right to punish a dictator who murdered so many of the people there? It seems like a very fair end for a man who caused so much suffering in my snappy and meaningless thinking.

40 posted on 12/30/2006 8:50:47 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Syria and Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel will all be secure.)
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