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Great Britain: POLICE PROSECUTE THEMSELVES FOR SPEEDING (unmarked police car caught on speed camera)
Sheffield Today (UK) ^ | December 28, 2006

Posted on 12/28/2006 1:41:58 PM PST by Stoat

 

POLICE PROSECUTE THEMSELVES FOR SPEEDING

 

SOUTH Yorkshire Police took themselves to court today for speeding and were fined £500 - after a force vehicle was caught on camera breaking the limit.
The case - believed to be one of the first of its kind - was heard at Rotherham Magistrates' Court.
The driver of the unmarked police vehicle has not been identified but Chief Constable Meredydd Hughes pleaded guilty on behalf of the force to failing to supply the identity of the driver.
Mr Hughes - who is the Association of Chief Police Officers' head of road policing - did not attend today's hearing and magistrates fined the force £500.
The unmarked Ford Corsa was caught on a speed camera in Bawtry Road, Wickersley, in June travelling at 47mph in a 40mph zone.
But Rotherham Magistrates Court was told 'diligent' inquiries by the force had failed to identify just who was driving the car at the time.
Mr Hughes, who is the Association of Chief Police Officers head of road policing, pleaded guilty by letter to the offence. He appeared on the court list simply as the Chief Constable.
 
Chief Constable Meredydd Hughes

No penalty points were imposed after the court was told that Mr Hughes was acting in the same capacity as the managing director of a company and it was therefore a non-endorsable offence.
Prosecutor Stephen Acaster said: "Between June 15 and November 16 2006 the defendant, who was the registered keeper of the Ford Corsa, failed to give the identity of the driver who was guilty of a moving traffic offence, namely speeding."
A statement read out in court on behalf of Mr Hughes said the camera had filmed the Ford Corsa travelling in excess of the speed limit on Bawtry Road earlier this year.
"We were given the task of finding who was driving the vehicle but despite diligent inquiries it has not been possible to do this," he said.
Mr Hughes said in a statement before the case: "South Yorkshire Police have 3,500 drivers and 750 cars and we cover 14 million miles a year.
"Unfortunately on an average of seven occasions per annum we can't identify a police driver who appears to have broken the law in respect of speed cameras.
"Of course, many of our officers have to reach incidents quickly and are lawfully allowed to exceed speed limits, but we require them to formally report the matter. A few times a year this does not happen.
"When this occurs the Force, as an organisation, takes responsibility and these matters are reported to court in the name of the Chief Constable."
A spokesman for the force added: "We are willing to prosecute ourselves when required."
Mike Trees, from the force's Road Policing Unit, said it wasn't just police forces who were prosecuted in cases where a driver cannot be identified.
He said: "Speeding tickets incurred by limited companies operating large fleets of vehicles, such as Royal Mail for example, could be dealt with in the same way."
Last month there was outcry when a South Yorkshire Police officer walked free from court after breaking the speed limit - by the same camera on Bawtry Road - to collect a Chinese takeaway while on duty.
PC Stephen Akrill, aged 41, was cleared of speeding by Rotherham magistrates despite being clocked driving at 48mph on his way to collect an order of sweet and sour pork in the town.
He denied the offence but admitted he had been "foolish" for not reporting to his bosses that he had triggered the camera.

 

Speed camera on Bawtry Road which caught speeding officer
Speed camera on Bawtry Road which caught speeding officer

 



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: police; speedcamera
As speed cameras and red-light cameras become more popular here in the USA, so will instances of this sort of thing occurring as well.  Hopefully legitimate uses of police vehicles will not be tying up the Court's time and resources in such a way as this, but if the use is judged to be illegitimate then let the chips fall where they may......
1 posted on 12/28/2006 1:42:03 PM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

A CHP officer once told me 'I don't have to follow the law, I have to enforce the law'


2 posted on 12/28/2006 1:44:17 PM PST by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: Stoat

Sheesh. Look 13 threads beneath this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1759534/posts


3 posted on 12/28/2006 1:45:12 PM PST by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Stoat
£500 for 47 mph in a 40 mph zone? Some of the cops in the US just moaned in delight.
4 posted on 12/28/2006 1:47:57 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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To: KarlInOhio
£500 for 47 mph in a 40 mph zone? Some of the cops in the US just moaned in delight.

 

Currency conversion to USD as per today's rates:

500.00 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds
= 981.304 USD
United States Dollars
1 GBP = 1.96261 USD   1 USD = 0.509526 GBP

 

Nearly a thousand dollars for a speed infraction of 7mph over the limit is far higher than anything I've heard of here in the USA....except perhaps in a school zone, and the article doesn't state that this was the case in the reported instance.

5 posted on 12/28/2006 1:53:22 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: steveo

I am in a position to have influence in this state. I make it a point to report speeding law enforcement cars when no emergency seems to be occuring. Yesterday, I got behind an unmarked car that turned his lights on to move cars out of his way. After about a day of research on the tag, it turns out the car belonged to the State Police and the driver was an commanding officer who was late for an appointment at the headquarters. It was a clear abuse of authority and the Major I discussed it with knew my feelings when we finished.

You cant enforce the law if you dont obey the law.


6 posted on 12/28/2006 1:53:54 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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To: Stoat

>>...fined the force £500.
The unmarked Ford Corsa was caught on a speed camera in Bawtry Road, Wickersley, in June travelling at 47mph in a 40mph zone.<<

Wait a minute. A ~$1,000 fine for going seven over the limit?!!!

No wonder they are draping old tires filled with deisel over these cameras and lighting them.


7 posted on 12/28/2006 1:57:53 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
Wait a minute. A ~$1,000 fine for going seven over the limit?!!!

No wonder they are draping old tires filled with deisel over these cameras and lighting them.

Our British Friends are being subjected to all sorts of unreasonable abuses and breathtakingly harsh laws at the hands of their Government

It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law[UK]

Good people can only take so much abuse and insult before they initiate a backlash.......

8 posted on 12/28/2006 2:03:42 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

>>Good people can only take so much abuse and insult before they initiate a backlash.......<<

Yeah. I remember reading about this sort of thing back in high school. One country, a couple hundred years ago, came up with something they called the Declaration of Independence.


9 posted on 12/28/2006 2:05:29 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
Yeah. I remember reading about this sort of thing back in high school. One country, a couple hundred years ago, came up with something they called the Declaration of Independence.

An excellent, essential point.  To our law-abiding and honorable British Friends who yearn for freedom, I say come on over!  This side of the Pond is a whole lot more hospitable than what the Euro press typically portrays us as being  :-)

We're friendly, have all-night supermarkets and you can buy as big and comfortable of a car as you might envision in your most heady fantasy   :-)

10 posted on 12/28/2006 2:10:57 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

And don't forget costco!

Or do they have that sort of stuff?


11 posted on 12/28/2006 2:13:49 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
And don't forget costco!

Or do they have that sort of stuff?

It's been quite a while since I've visited so I don't know for sure, but I haven't read any press accounts of such UTTERLY AWESOME tributes to Capitalism as Costco operating there....at least nothing on the scale of what we have here.

Just a few years ago I had some friends from Germany visit, and when I took them through Costco they were completely blown away....they had never seen anything like it.  Jaw-dropped amazement was the rule of the day.

 

12 posted on 12/28/2006 2:27:48 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

I must say that I find England's penchant for speed cameras and CCTV very creepy.


13 posted on 12/28/2006 6:09:22 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: steveo; All
In the very limited numbers of years that I was a uniformed Municipal Police Officer, approximately five, I wrote 29 traffic summonses. Those were in conjunction with traffic accidents, and for Reckless or Careless driving offenses.
I had little interest in traffic matters, and was much more interested in felony suppression and arrests.
I wrote hundreds of parking summonses in support of that interest.(parking violations fix a vehicle in a particular place as a particular time and are a useful tool in investigations)

Stories like these support the theory that all things dealing with the Brits will at some point in the story become odd, weird or perverse.

I personally think the Brit police system of videoing EVERYTHING is expensive, and NOT much good at crime suppression. Being able to ID a bad guy after he kicks the crap out of Granny for her dole check is NOT good law enforcement work.
14 posted on 12/28/2006 6:33:06 PM PST by Gideon Reader (ALL of my weapons are cleaned, my mags are loaded, and my music is very, VERY cool.)
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To: SmoothTalker
I must say that I find England's penchant for speed cameras and CCTV very creepy.

You're note alone in your perspective, but the USA is not far behind.

Great Britain Now pubs ban trilbies (Pub chain bans HATS because they obscure faces on CCTV cams)

Great Britain Satellites on speeders (Motorcycles' engine to be cut off via satellite - cars next)

15 posted on 12/28/2006 7:47:19 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

note = not

(embarrassed @ typo)


16 posted on 12/28/2006 7:48:20 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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