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To: RetiredArmy
The enormous defeat President Bush suffered with the loss of both Houses of Congress has not caused him to retreat from his position that the U.S. alone now stands between a radical Islamic takeover of many of the world's governments in the next 30 or more years. If that takeover occurs, we will suffer an enslavement that will threaten our personal freedoms and take much of the world back into the Dark Ages.

Seriously put down the smoke. Whew...

Radical Islamists are very much aware that we have shown fear.For example, we have allowed the people of Darfur — dark skinned Africans — to be terrorized, killed, raped, and taken as slaves by the supporters of the Sudanese government, radical Islamists.

No in the only case, perhaps in all of the last century, the US government has done what it was supposed to do. Stay out of the affairs of other nations

She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... Adams, 1821
Suppose that last bit would include purple fingers and nation building....Funny, advice from those that were there at or near the beginning on the issue of nonintervention is seen as fear by the armchair 'warriors'. Ed, why don't you haul your tail down to Darfur if you're so concerned about it.

George Bush Is a Hero

No, he's a politician. Nothing more, nothing less.

78 posted on 12/27/2006 7:16:52 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
No, he's a politician. Nothing more, nothing less.

Actually he is much more than that. He is a good family man, a good Christian, an excellent CIC, a fighter pilot, a Harvard MBA, the former Governor of Texas and the present POTUS.

In addition he is a man of his word. He supported what he campaigned for and he opposed what he campaigned against whether we agreed with him or not.

In addition Iraq, Afghanistan and jihadism in general were and are our concern, Mr. Adams not withstanding.

85 posted on 12/27/2006 7:26:28 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: billbears
Who taught you that it is wrong to have heroes, bill?

A person can be both a politician and a hero, if he is a man of character and conviction before he is a politician, as President Bush is.

It is a form of elitism to say that no politician can ever be a hero.

133 posted on 12/27/2006 9:15:53 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: billbears

"No, he's a politician. Nothing more, nothing less."

A politician with courage. Adams also was one, but he was one on many from that era. Bush is one of few from this era which makes him that much more courageous.


201 posted on 12/28/2006 7:03:31 AM PST by westmichman (The will of God always trumps the will of the people.)
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