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1 posted on 12/26/2006 11:25:47 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

3. Colt: The original point and click interface.

Nice


2 posted on 12/26/2006 11:33:52 AM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Dick Bachert

Fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity . - Sigmund Freud

Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." (A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands.) - Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one. - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist 1764.

A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks. - Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to his nephew

The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people;that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, ... or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. - The Living Thoughts of Thomas Jefferson, pp.46 - 47, Presented by John Dewey

Gun control laws increase the power of government and the criminal element over the average citizen and serve no other purpose. - Robert E. Lee

A goverment that fears arms in the hands of it people should also fear ROPE! - Nathan Bedford Forrest about 1845

...I am opposed to all attempts to license or restrict the arming of individuals...I consider such laws a violation of civil liberty, subversive of democratic political institutions, and self-defeating in their purpose. - Robert Heinlein, in a 1949 letter concerning "Red Planet"

I don't know about you, but if you hear that Williams' guns have been taken, you will know that Williams is dead. - Walter Williams, syndicated columnist

Ain't much can't be cured with a lot of lead flyin' through the air. - SEAL Team Six saying

It is hard to oppress a population equipped to hunt animals the size of a man. -- L. Neil Smith, Pallas (New York: Tor, 1993), p. 380

Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power. - Yoshimi Ishikawa, Japanese author commenting on the lack of protest with which Japanese tolerated governmental corruption, Los Angeles Times, 10/15/92

The most important freedom of all is the freedom to defend freedom.- Kevin McGehee

Gun control, the opiate of the intellectuals: covert elitism laced with self-righteousness.


3 posted on 12/26/2006 11:35:34 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Dick Bachert
BUMP!

Gun control is a good sight picture and a smooth trigger pull!

4 posted on 12/26/2006 11:38:23 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: Joe Brower

Bang, bump, ping...


5 posted on 12/26/2006 11:43:30 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Dick Bachert

I've seen that photo a million times and have always assumed that it was doctored. If this thing is realy, some group in NY should start hitting Chuck from the left, and accuse him of not being "strong on gun control" and a closet gun owner. There is a group in Wisconsin that did the exact same tactic in reverse: they accused a pro-CCW organization of being a "gun control" organization and worked to defeat pro-CCW legislators for being in favor of "gun control".


7 posted on 12/26/2006 11:45:26 AM PST by Mini-14
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To: Dick Bachert

ex-Navy Bump!


9 posted on 12/26/2006 11:49:11 AM PST by rbosque
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To: Dick Bachert
The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

IIRC, Lexington and Concord were necessary because the King's army was marching to confiscate weapons away from Americans.

10 posted on 12/26/2006 11:53:27 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Dick Bachert

bump!

11 posted on 12/26/2006 11:55:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Good Gun Control

*********************************************************

No gun control


12 posted on 12/26/2006 11:58:30 AM PST by evad
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To: Dick Bachert

The Senate Sea Anchor works both ways, Chuckie.


13 posted on 12/26/2006 12:04:02 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Dick Bachert

15 posted on 12/26/2006 12:17:53 PM PST by Gritty (Liberals are spineless suckups.Don't insult my intelligence by telling me they're brave.-Ann Coulter)
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To: Dick Bachert

Here's my three favorites:

"A Glock in the hand is better than a cop on the phone." – Somebody

Glock when a 5 minute response time is a death sentence.

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith


16 posted on 12/26/2006 2:39:38 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Dick Bachert

BTTT


19 posted on 12/26/2006 7:16:02 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Dick Bachert
~ 40 REASONS TO OWN FIREARMS ~

I Own Firearms Because A Bunch Of Old, Dead, White Folks Said I Should:

1) "The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
~ George Washington.

2) "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
~ Alexander Hamilton.

3) "Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property."
~ Thomas Paine.

4) "Americans need not fear the federal government because they enjoy the advantage of being armed, which you possess over the people of almost every other nation."
~ James Madison.

5) "Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
~ Thomas Jefferson.

6) "The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun."
~ Patrick Henry.

7) "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes"
~ Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria.

8) "To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
~ George Mason.

9) "The said Constitution be never construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
~ Samuel Adams.

10) "But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."
~ Hubert Humphrey.

11) "I carried it (a revolver) religiously and during the summer I asked a friend, a man who had been one of Franklin's bodyguards in New York State, to give me some practice in target shooting so that if the need arose I would know how to use the gun."
~ Eleanore Roosevelt.

12) "By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia', the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms', our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason, I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."
~ John F. Kennedy.

13) "Mightn't it be better in those areas of high crime to arm the homeowner and the shopkeeper, teach him how to use his weapons and put the word out to the underworld that it is no longer totally safe to rob and murder? One wonders indeed if the rising crime rate isn't due as much as anything to the criminal's instinctive knowledge that the average victim no longer has any means of protection. No one knows how many crimes are committed because the criminal knows he has a soft touch. No one knows how many stores have been left alone because the criminals knew them to be guarded by a man with a gun."
~ Ronald Reagan.

I Own Firearms Because History Says I Should:

13) 1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

14) 1929: Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 40-60 million citizens, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated or starved to death.

15) 1935: China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

16) 1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Catholics and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

17) 1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated."

18) 1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

19) 1966-1976: China still has gun control. Another 50-100 million civilians, unable to defend themselves, were killed in Mao Tse Tung's "Cultural Revolution".

20) 1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

21) 1990s: Rwanda established gun control. In a span of 100 days in April 1994, 800,000 people who were unable to defend themselves were massacred to death - most by machetes. How many dead, hacked-up bodies do you think were found holding a loaded gun? (answer is less than one)

22) 1992: Los Angeles California, USA. For three days police stood by and watched, unable to stop the rioting, arson and destruction of whole neighborhoods. Yet many Korean stores were virtually untouched - protected by their well-armed storeowners who exercised their right to self-defense through their right to keep and bear arms and who did for themselves what the police were unwilling or unable to do.

23) Late 1990s: Great Britain established total gun control. Robberies, burglaries and assaults have skyrocketted making London's violent crime rate now higher than anywhere in America.

24) 2005: New Orleans hit by hurricane. Widespread catastrophe, no law enforcement across most of the city for weeks. Some citizens protected themselves with firearms - until NOLA police began forcefully confiscating them "for their own protection", leaving even the elderly unable to defend themselves against roving gangs of looters.

25) "Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."
~ Heinrich Himmler.

I Own Firearms Because It Is My God-Given Right To Self-Defense:

26) "If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed."
~ Exodus 22:2

27) "...he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
~ Luke 22:36

28) "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace."
~ Luke 11:21

29) "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
~ Declaration of Independance.

I Own Firearms Because I Have Common Sense:

30) The second amendment is not dependant on the most recent crime statistics - nor is my right to own a gun contingent on what criminals do.

31) 2 million times a year, private citizens successfully use firearms to defend themselves.

32) Criminals fear victims holding guns, not victims holding phones.

I Own Firearms Because There Are Those With Power Who, If Given The Chance, Would Force Me To Relinquish Them:


33) "Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of Americans to feel safe."
~ Sen. Diane Feinstein, D-CA.

34) "We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!"
~ Rep. (now Senator) Charles Schumer D-NY.

35) "Senator Ashcroft is so far out of the mainstream that he has said that citizens need to be armed in order to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. Our government? Tyrannical?"
~ Sen. Ted Kennedy D-MA, at John Ashcroft's Senate confirmation hearing, 2001.

36) "The sale of guns must stop. Halfway measures are not enough."
~ Sarah Brady.

37) "Banning guns is an idea whose time has come."
~ Sen. Joseph Biden, D-DE.

38) "I don't believe that everybody in America needs to be able to buy a semi-automatic or fully-automatic weapon, built only for the purpose of killing people, in order to protect the right of Americans to hunt and practice marksmanship and to be secure."
~ Bill Clinton.

39) "I don't care about crime. I just want to get the guns."
~ Former Senator Howard Metzenbaum, D-OH during Brady Bill debates.

40) "If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"
~ Rep. Henry Waxman, D-NY, 5/2001 MSNBC report on .50BMG rifles.



It's Not Just A Gun...

It's My "HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE"!!
20 posted on 12/26/2006 10:32:39 PM PST by The_Macallan
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25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

Armed colonial militia were an outgrowth of the French and Indian War. When the Parliament tried to off load the cost of constant wars with the French on the already more prosperous and better educated American colonies, the militia turned against them, not surprisingly.

It must have been galling to the colonials to have to support less well educated, and financially less well off British troops on soil they were perfectly capable of and willing to defending themselves.

27 posted on 12/27/2006 9:49:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The artist doesn't have to have all the answers; he must, however, ask the right questions honestly.)
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To: Dick Bachert
THE UNABRIDGED SECOND AMENDMENT

by J. Neil Schulman

If you wanted to know all about the Big Bang, you'd ring up Carl Sagan, right ? And if you wanted to know about desert warfare, the man to call would be Norman Schwarzkopf, no question about it. But who would you call if you wanted the top expert on American usage, to tell you the meaning of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution ?

That was the question I asked A.C. Brocki, editorial coordinator of the Los Angeles Unified School District and formerly senior editor at Houghton Mifflin Publishers -- who himself had been recommended to me as the foremost expert on English usage in the Los Angeles school system. Mr. Brocki told me to get in touch with Roy Copperud, a retired professor of journalism at the University of Southern California and the author of "American Usage and Style: The Consensus."

A little research lent support to Brocki's opinion of Professor Copperud's expertise.

Roy Copperud was a newspaper writer on major dailies for over three decades before embarking on a a distinguished 17-year career teaching journalism at USC. Since 1952, Copperud has been writing a column dealing with the professional aspects of journalism for "Editor and Publisher", a weekly magazine focusing on the journalism field.

He's on the usage panel of the American Heritage Dictionary, and Merriam Webster's Usage Dictionary frequently cites him as an expert. Copperud's fifth book on usage, "American Usage and Style: The Consensus," has been in continuous print from Van Nostrand Reinhold since 1981, and is the winner of the Association of American Publisher's Humanities Award.

That sounds like an expert to me.

After a brief telephone call to Professor Copperud in which I introduced myself but did not give him any indication of why I was interested, I sent the following letter:

"I am writing you to ask you for your professional opinion as an expert in English usage, to analyze the text of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, and extract the intent from the text.

"The text of the Second Amendment is, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

"The debate over this amendment has been whether the first part of the sentence, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State', is a restrictive clause or a subordinate clause, with respect to the independent clause containing the subject of the sentence, 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

"I would request that your analysis of this sentence not take into consideration issues of political impact or public policy, but be restricted entirely to a linguistic analysis of its meaning and intent. Further, since your professional analysis will likely become part of litigation regarding the consequences of the Second Amendment, I ask that whatever analysis you make be a professional opinion that you would be willing to stand behind with your reputation, and even be willing to testify under oath to support, if necessary."

My letter framed several questions about the test of the Second Amendment, then concluded:

"I realize that I am asking you to take on a major responsibility and task with this letter. I am doing so because, as a citizen, I believe it is vitally important to extract the actual meaning of the Second Amendment. While I ask that your analysis not be affected by the political importance of its results, I ask that you do this because of that importance."

After several more letters and phone calls, in which we discussed terms for his doing such an analysis, but in which we never discussed either of our opinions regarding the Second Amendment, gun control, or any other political subject, Professor Copperud sent me the follow analysis (into which I have inserted my questions for the sake of clarity):

[Copperud:] "The words 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,' contrary to the interpretation cited in your letter of July 26, 1991, constitutes a present participle, rather than a clause. It is used as an adjective, modifying 'militia,' which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject 'the right', verb 'shall'). The to keep and bear arms is asserted as an essential for maintaining a militia.

"In reply to your numbered questions:

[Schulman:] "(1) Can the sentence be interpreted to grant the right to keep and bear arms solely to 'a well-regulated militia'?"

[Copperud:] "(1) The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people."

[Schulman:] "(2) Is 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms' granted by the words of the Second Amendment, or does the Second Amendment assume a preexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms, and merely state that such right 'shall not be infringed'?"

[Copperud:] "(2) The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence is assumed. The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia."

[Schulman:] "(3) Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms conditioned upon whether or not a well regulated militia, is, in fact necessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not existing, is the statement 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed' null and void?"

[Copperud:] "(3) No such condition is expressed or implied. The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia. No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as a requisite to the security of a free state. The right to keep and bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence."

[Schulman:] "(4) Does the clause 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,' grant a right to the government to place conditions on the 'right of the people to keep and bear arms,' or is such right deemed unconditional by the meaning of the entire sentence?"

[Copperud:] "(4) The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as previously stated. It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the militia."

[Schulman:] "(5) Which of the following does the phrase 'well-regulated militia' mean: 'well-equipped', 'well-organized,' 'well-drilled,' 'well-educated,' or 'subject to regulations of a superior authority'?" [Copperud:] "(5) The phrase means 'subject to regulations of a superior authority;' this accords with the desire of the writers for civilian control over the military."

[Schulman:] "(6) (If at all possible, I would ask you to take account the changed meanings of words, or usage, since that sentence was written 200 years ago, but not take into account historical interpretations of the intents of the authors, unless those issues can be clearly separated."

[Copperud:] "To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in the meaning of words or in usage that would affect the meaning of the amendment. If it were written today, it might be put: "Since a well-regulated militia is necessary tot he security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged.'

[Schulman:] "As a 'scientific control' on this analysis, I would also appreciate it if you could compare your analysis of the text of the Second Amendment to the following sentence,

"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.'

"My questions for the usage analysis of this sentence would be,

"(1) Is the grammatical structure and usage of this sentence and the way the words modify each other, identical to the Second Amendment's sentence?; and

"(2) Could this sentence be interpreted to restrict 'the right of the people to keep and read Books' _only_ to 'a well-educated electorate' -- for example, registered voters with a high-school diploma?"

[Copperud:] "(1) Your 'scientific control' sentence precisely parallels the amendment in grammatical structure.

"(2) There is nothing in your sentence that either indicates or implies the possibility of a restricted interpretation."

Professor Copperud had only one additional comment, which he placed in his cover letter: "With well-known human curiosity, I made some speculative efforts to decide how the material might be used, but was unable to reach any conclusion."

So now we have been told by one of the top experts on American usage what many knew all along: the Constitution of the United States unconditionally protects the people's right to keep and bear arms, forbidding all governments formed under the Constitution from abridging that right.

As I write this, the attempted coup against constitutional government in the Soviet Union has failed, apparently because the will of the people in that part of the world to be free from capricious tyranny is stronger than the old guard's desire to maintain a monopoly on dictatorial power.

And here in the United States, elected lawmakers, judges, and appointed officials who are pledged to defend the Constitution of the United States ignore, marginalize, or prevaricate about the Second Amendment routinely. American citizens are put in American prisons for carrying arms, owning arms of forbidden sorts, or failing to satisfy bureaucratic requirements regarding the owning and carrying of firearms -- all of which is an abridgement of the unconditional right of the people to keep and bear arms, guaranteed by the Constitution.

And even the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), staunch defender of the rest of the Bill of Rights, stands by and does nothing.

it seems it is up to those who believe in the right to keep and bear arms to preserve that right. no one else will. No one else can. Will we beg our elected representatives not to take away our rights, and continue regarding them as representing us if they do? Will we continue obeying judges who decide that the Second Amendment doesn't mean what it says it means but means whatever they say it means in their Orwellian doublespeak ?

Or will be simply keep and bear the arms of our choice, as the Constitution of the United States promises us we can, and pledge that we will defend that promise with our lives, our fortuned, and our sacred honor ?

(C) 1991 by The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation. Informational reproduction of the entire article is hereby authorized provided the author, The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation are credited. All other rights reserved.

About the Author

J. Neil Schulman is the award-winning author of novels endorsed by Anthony Burgess and Nobel-economist Milton Friedman, and writer of the CBS "Twilight Zone" episode in which a time-traveling historian prevents the JFK assassination. He's also the founder and president of SoftServ Publishing, the first publishing company to distribute "paperless books" via personal computers and modems.

Most recently, Schulman has founded the Committee to Enforce the Second Amendment (CESA), through which he intends to see the individual's right to keep and bear arms recognized as a constitutional protection equal to those afforded in the First, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth and Fourteenth amendments.

28 posted on 12/27/2006 9:57:55 AM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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To: Dick Bachert
That be my main man, Chuckie ESS.
He be poppin' caps at some down MoScratcher what be peepin' on Chuckie's Ho; tryin' ta get some a tha' sugar.
Tha' Tek9 be a BAAAAAAAD Mudderlurker an my man be da one wha'still be standin' know whad eye mean?

In a slightly more serious vein, the only thing that could have added to the warm glow I receive of looking at the photo of Senator Schumer, would be if his firearms coach John F. Kerry and Rangemaster Tubby Teddy the Captain of the good Ship Chapaquadick, were in the shot.
30 posted on 12/27/2006 11:18:01 AM PST by Gideon Reader (ALL of my weapons are cleaned, my mags are loaded, and my music is very, VERY cool.)
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To: Dick Bachert

I was wondering if you know where the Firearms Refresher Course list was originated from? (Who the author is?)


33 posted on 09/13/2009 12:55:56 PM PDT by Prevent-the-Unnecessary
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