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Immigrants Go From Farms to Jails, and a Climate of Fear Settles In
New York Times ^ | December 24, 2006 | By NINA BERNSTEIN

Posted on 12/24/2006 5:21:38 AM PST by DeaconBenjamin2

ELBA, N.Y. — A cold December rain gusted across fields of cabbage destined for New York City egg rolls, cole slaw and Christmas goose. Ankle-deep in mud, six immigrant farmworkers raced to harvest 120,000 pounds before nightfall, knowing that at dawn they could find immigration agents at their door.

The farmer who stopped to check their progress had lost 28 other workers in a raid in October, all illegal Mexican immigrants with false work permits at another farm here in western New York. Throughout the region, farm hands have simply disappeared by twos and threes, picked up on a Sunday as they went to church or to the laundry. Whole families have gone into hiding, like the couple who spent the night with their child in a plastic calf hutch.

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For Rodney and Debbie Brown, the dairy farmers in Clifton Springs who lost 6 of their 10 employees to immigration arrests, the experience began like an episode of “The Twilight Zone.”

When no workers showed up at 6:30 a.m. on Aug. 28 to help milk 580 waiting cows, Mr. Brown went to the farmhouse where most of their Hispanic employees lived, only to find it eerily empty. Some of the workers had been with the Browns for more than seven years.

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Later, the Browns learned that agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement had been waiting for the workers in their driveway at dawn with state troopers, and had whisked them to the 450-bed detention center in Batavia, where there were 3,094 admissions this year. Like an estimated 650,000 immigrants in New York State and some 11 million nationally, the employees were in the United States illegally....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alieninvasion; aliens; crimaliens; crimigration; enforcement; enforcethelaws; farming; ice; immigration
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

do they mean the fear should have already been there?

as in sneak across go to jail or be shot


21 posted on 12/24/2006 5:52:47 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
These bleeding-heart articles are tear jerkers---up to the point that they mention that those being written about are illegal.

At that point all the bleeding-heart tear-jerking ends. They are lawbreakers. They are here illegally.

If the article writer wants to write a bleeding-heart tear-jerking article about legal immigrants, that is a whole other matter.

But these bleeding-heart tear-jerking articles mean little when they reveal that the subjects are illegals.
22 posted on 12/24/2006 5:55:17 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
and a Climate of Fear Settles In

Be afraid, be very afraid. Then move back home and settle for less, or work to change your own country. Easy said than done? Yes. At anytime my responsibility? No.
23 posted on 12/24/2006 5:57:57 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Dick Bachert

I don't even think it would cost the consumer more.This employment of illegals is all about fattening up the profit margin for these farmers.When I need some extra labor on the farm for hay and straw baling I pay the same wage that the factories in the area do.And I have no problem getting good hard working Americans to do the job.And as an added free bonus,they all speak English.


24 posted on 12/24/2006 6:02:06 AM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
tried to get the illegals to testify against their employers, but that the illegals chose deportation rather than a plea bargain with testimony.

If not being deported was offered the federal prosecutor making the offer should be charged with aiding & abetting a criminal.
The only offer that should have been given to the invaders is a free flight home.


25 posted on 12/24/2006 6:02:23 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
Some of the workers had been with the Browns for more than seven years.

Examine his employer tax records for those years.

26 posted on 12/24/2006 6:05:43 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

They really need to start confiscating employer's property used in the commission of a crime. If they can do it for prostitution they certainly can do it for this.

If small farms go too bad. Consolidation of farms will reap cost benefits and highrer wages to Americans then can be paid.


27 posted on 12/24/2006 6:06:22 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
My hunch is that Miss Bernstein hasn't yet invited any of these illegals to live with her on Central Park West or Greenwich or Chappaqua...or wherever she lives.
28 posted on 12/24/2006 6:06:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

$189,000 of up to 30 million illegals. Geez, cry me a river.
Those numbers reflect that they are NOT doing their job, not that they are.


29 posted on 12/24/2006 6:08:31 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: humblegunner

"and had whisked them to the 450-bed detention center"

Is that the "Secret" Haliburton Detention Center for Internet Conspiracy liberals???


30 posted on 12/24/2006 6:09:39 AM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: ASA Vet

Plea bargains in return for testimony against a preferred target are standard operating procedure. No court or ethics panel would view it as aiding and abetting a criminal.


31 posted on 12/24/2006 6:12:42 AM PST by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: KosmicKitty

Get out the hankies. The sob sister media is telling a sad tale of ILLEGAL immigrants actually paying a price for breaking the law.


32 posted on 12/24/2006 6:18:37 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Vigilanteman
“The farmers have got their view, but they’re shortsighted — they’re not looking at the country as a whole,” said Mr. Woodhams, who notes that he is a registered Democrat and the son of a Dutch immigrant farmer. “

I've talked about this for years ....

We've allowed so much to be purged from our American fabric, and a couple of basics are reading, and an honest American history.

Our founders had a vision ... not short sighted, and actually a lot further ahead than what we give them credit for.

We are their ..... posterity.

In an agricultural society, land was the means by which families grew, strengthened and stayed. Communities arose and prospered ... around the LOCAL church (not the mega-TV-crap).

Men prepared for his children .... but like the WW2 song says ... "How ya' gonna' keep them, down on the farm .. after they've seen Paree ?"

So now everyone follows a job, not dad, chases money, not cows and so much is lost for the sake of progress.

I don't know what the solution is .. or even if a solution is possible .. but it's something I think about when I wax nostalgic.

33 posted on 12/24/2006 6:19:21 AM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

Good start, but why aren't Rodney and Debbie Brown doing the perp walk as well for aiding and abetting.


34 posted on 12/24/2006 6:27:24 AM PST by TADSLOS (Mohammed was the L. Ron Hubbard of his time.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

Great! A climate of fear is exactly what wee need. They can take it back south of the border and spread the word. What about the people who's SS numbers are being stolen?


35 posted on 12/24/2006 6:30:24 AM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: School of Rational Thought
Nice theory. But most of the perpetrators are big-business farms and producers, not the mom-and-pop operations.

Imagine the political furor if ICE confiscated a Swift meat packing plant or a 1,000 acre onion farm or a 10,000 acre wheat farm.
36 posted on 12/24/2006 6:30:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: 4yearlurker

Wee=we


37 posted on 12/24/2006 6:31:04 AM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

For some reason I don't think these two "farmers" are the suffering all that much.


38 posted on 12/24/2006 6:35:34 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: KosmicKitty
The headline conveniently leaves out the word "Illegal".

As does any article that references "undocumented workers". They are all criminals. People who chose to come here illegally.

39 posted on 12/24/2006 6:38:51 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!! GO RUDY GO!!!)
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To: 4yearlurker
Wee=we

At our house my son calls it "pee-pee". ;0)

40 posted on 12/24/2006 6:39:23 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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