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Disillusioned Western Men Seek to "Thai" the Knot (Western Women Are Wrecks)
SAWF NEWS ^ | 12/23/2006 | Pornchai Kittiwondsakul

Posted on 12/23/2006 5:15:33 PM PST by Dallas59

BANGKOK (AFP) - "I could not find anybody in the States. There was nothing in America for me. That's why I'm here," says the clean-cut 52-year-old bachelor, who bears a passing resemblance to Hollywood actor Michael Douglas.

Sullivan, an emergency nurse from Florida, is one of a growing number of foreign men seeking young and beautiful Thai brides via the Internet.

Speaking at the Bangkok office of Sweet Singles, a Thai bride-by-Internet company, Sullivan says he has decided to "go beyond boundaries" in his search for a wife after a futile quest in the United States.

"American women in my age are, basically, a wreck. They are physically and emotionally beaten up from relationships and life. They are untrusting," says the well-built Sullivan, sporting a pink shirt and white pants.

"I think the feminist movement in America in the 60s really trashed American feminism. American women lack a certain femininity about them that women of other countries have," he laughs.

Sullivan contacted Sweet Singles six months ago and was introduced to Yoshita Tongsalee, an attractive 27-year-old teacher of traditional Thai dancing.

After corresponding with her via e-mails for three weeks, Sullivan decided to meet her and flew to Bangkok in early December.

"Just from e-mails, I knew she was the one. I just knew," says the American, his emerald earring dazzling.

"I find Thai women in general to be less self-centered and more family-centered than I find in western women," he says. The couple plans to marry next year.

John, a 43-year-old Briton who got married to a Thai woman four years ago via an Internet bride agency, also has grievances about western women.

"English women are very demanding and they expect you to be good-looking and have plenty of money and give them lots of attention. They drink a lot and they smoke a lot and they eat a lot," says John, who declined to give his last name.

"I am not very good at getting women anyway. I'm not the best-looking guy in the world. I'm quite short and it's very hard for me to find an English woman who is shorter than me," he says on the telephone from London.

Before marrying his Thai bride, John dated six British women, but his relationships with them were anything but happy.

"I'm just fed up with British women. They are not so loyal," he says.

When he met six Thai ladies in Bangkok via the Internet, including a 32-year-old business woman who later became his wife, John says he was struck by their kindness and family-centered values.

"I think Thai women are more loyal to their husbands. They are not just 'take, take take.' Also they have old-fashioned family values, which we used to have in this country," he says. John and his wife now have two young boys.

John and Marc declined to say how much they paid to get their Thai wives. Sweet Singles says it can charge a foreign man up to 1,700 dollars for a three-year membership to meet Thai ladies.

Some 10,000 foreign men have signed up with Sweet Singles over the last decade, and nearly half of them were previously divorced, says Bee, the company's customer service manager.

Some 80 percent of them get married to Thai women through the agency.

Americans account for 60 percent of the company's male clients, with the rest mostly from Australia, Britain, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Their average age ranges from 55 to 60.

Some 20,000 Thai women have also joined Sweet Singles, with their ages ranging from 20 to 40. The company charges a Thai woman 700 baht (20 dollars) for membership.

Bee, a petite 40-something, says Thai woman often have a favorable impression of foreigners.

"Many Thai girls were disappointed by Thai men who are famous for womanizing, drinking and gambling. Thai woman believe Caucasian men are more responsible and sincere and not playing around with other women," she says.

Thanitchaya Buaban, a striking 26-year-old beauty from Thailand's northern tourist spot of Chiang Mai, says she used to have a Thai boyfriend but he cheated on her many times.

"I was heart-broken. After I joined Sweet Singles, I started meeting foreigners and they were very kind and polite," she says at the firm's office.

Thanitchaya says she now has many American suitors who are trying to win her love with diamond rings and necklaces.

"I'm going to choose the best one," she says with a big smile.

For Sullivan's fiancee Yoshita, her experiences with Thai men were more traumatic.

"I was planning to marry my first Thai boyfriend, but he did not show up on our wedding day. He embarrassed me and my family," Yoshita says. "My second boyfriend cheated on me and impregnated another woman."

But Yoshita, who wears a golden heart necklace, says she is looking forward to living in Florida with the man of her dreams -- even if she still refers to him by his last name.

"I believe Mr Sullivan is a gift from God. He is really a good man and respects me. Every day I pray and thank Buddha for giving me Mr Sullivan," she says.

Sullivan nodded and held her hand.

"I have to step outside my own culture to find someone with whom I am compatible. I am not narrow-minded in that regard," he smiles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: asianbrides; dating; mailorderbrides; marriage; sexes; single; thailand
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Referring to the men, the article says, "Their average age ranges from 55 to 60." This seems typical of other summaries I've seen of the overseas bride deal. The reason they're so jaded with American women, in my opinion, is that they just can't seem to find young, beautiful and compliant women to do the bidding of some fading doofus, waiting on them hand and foot, worshipping them in general, and satisfying their prurient desires on demand. The whole business of a bunch of geezers going overseas to buy slaves for their personal and fading sex lives is creepy. And, as a one time Immigration Agent, I'm too familiar with how many of these matings end up in simple green card blackmail schemes, and abusive situations, by the American.


541 posted on 12/24/2006 11:00:28 AM PST by DPMD (dpmd)
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To: Bronzewound; All; Cogadh na Siths Girl
Now THIS was a good holiday thread!

By far my favorite.... I've done some of my best work here.

I'm totally going to have my wonderful, hot, submissive, (American) wifey reply to #214.....

--after she's done getting me a scotch and goofing around with the kiddos.

This is the time of year to enumerate our blessings:
I wish you all a Merry Christmas and Freedom from vexatious and cross women in the New Year.

542 posted on 12/24/2006 11:06:08 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: vox humana
Western women are demanding and materialistic.... but...

Thanitchaya says she now has many American suitors who are trying to win her love with diamond rings and necklaces.

I sense a fit of irony coming over me...

My BF loves me for my conservative American values and traits. And I'm not interested in diamond rings or necklaces either. I love him for his conservative American values and traits as well.

543 posted on 12/24/2006 11:07:00 AM PST by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: DPMD
young, beautiful and compliant women to do the bidding of some fading doofus, waiting on them hand and foot, worshipping them in general, and satisfying their prurient desires on demand.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

And, as a one time Immigration Agent...

M'eh: I wouldn't be so proud of that these days....

544 posted on 12/24/2006 11:09:36 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
You can be the guy women cheat on or the guy women cheat with--it's your choice.

There's nothing less attractive in a man than self-pity or whining. Sounds like you've got some serious issues, my FRiend.

545 posted on 12/24/2006 11:19:06 AM PST by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: aft_lizard
I agree with him that many women in this country are just wrecks, even at my age of 33.

It gets even worse after 33 and instead of just being "wrecks", more and more leave me with the impression they've been rode hard and put away wet.

Their idea of compatibility is my retirement incoming matching their spending habits.

546 posted on 12/24/2006 11:20:23 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I lived overseas for several years and I was amazed at the number of American men seeking a life partner in places other than America.

Many of the derogatory comments about international marriages come form some of those feminazi's who real men do not want to share what little of life they have left.

Sure some of those looking overseas are real crackpots but others undeservingingly so are deemed by American women as dweebs and misfits but thats the very reason many men go overseas.

A successful in money American woman doesn't want to make the commitment of love to some one who may be just a hard working good old boy who couldn't afford a pair of Donald Trumps shoes.

Foreign women have hangups but not the same kinds as the American women coming out of the terrible 60's generation.

Who wants to marry a me first self-centered neurotic power driven person.

American men have been emasculated by the feminazi penis envy crowd for so long most men feel it is a pleasure to be treated like a real man.

Just my opinion from observations of men trekking across the border.
547 posted on 12/24/2006 11:28:45 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: technochick99
There's nothing less attractive in a man than self-pity or whining.

That was neither, but you seem highly, highly attuned to ridicule any weakness you find in a man. Guys dig that y'know.

Sounds like you've got some serious issues, my FRiend.

Don't insult me and call me FRiend. That's passive aggressive.

Of course I have issues with women, everyone does!

548 posted on 12/24/2006 11:29:38 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: cammie
I think your five points point to why American men are abandoning feminist American women for a more softer gentler relationship.

Your five points also lend a lot of credibility to the word JEALOUS.

Have a nice day Patricia Ireland.

Just my lowly opinion of reading between the lines.
549 posted on 12/24/2006 11:34:28 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Wow... just wow....


550 posted on 12/24/2006 11:34:40 AM PST by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: aft_lizard
ROFLMAO
551 posted on 12/24/2006 11:36:01 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Well, that may be, but I don't think this particular Thai woman was too crazy about that little cultural peculiarity.


552 posted on 12/24/2006 11:41:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: TheWriterTX
Really nice post.

As a certified marriage counselor you may have hit the nail squarely on the old head so to speak.
553 posted on 12/24/2006 11:43:03 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Many men and women get married thinking they will change the spouse to fit their wants.


Biggest mistake in any marriage and leads to more divorces.

If a person gets married then they better not go into the relationship thinking the spouse will do the changing.

Of course Hollywood marriage is just a handle for legally sleeping with someone until something better comes along.
554 posted on 12/24/2006 12:32:59 PM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: HighWheeler
Excellent post.

Real women are smart enough to let the man in their life think he is the boss and protecting them from harms way.

I assume this statement will piss off most of those women posting on here who know little about the bible.
555 posted on 12/24/2006 12:42:52 PM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
young, beautiful and compliant women<>

This has been repeated in this thread over and over. I have 2 brief comments:

1. It is a little Patrician to think that only American women can be independent, isn't it?

2. It doesn't match my experience and observation. Of the half-dozen foreign marriages I know of, none are like that.

556 posted on 12/24/2006 1:56:29 PM PST by ko_kyi
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To: OKIEDOC
Many men and women get married thinking they will change the spouse to fit their wants.

More women do that than men. Women marry hoping their spouse will change. Men marry hoping she won't. Both hopes are often dashed

557 posted on 12/24/2006 2:05:38 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Women marry hoping their spouse will change determining to change their spouse.

That might be more accurate. : )

558 posted on 12/24/2006 2:17:27 PM PST by Bronzewound ( That wasn't me who called him a loser…. That was another poster. I called him that later. cammie)
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To: TheWriterTX
Dear Writer,

Thank you for not presuming. I'll answer your probing question by saying only that I've been there, done that. Don't flame me on Christmas Eve, as I just sat down for the first time since 6:30AM, after a day of dog walking, shopping, running, cooking. Now I have to go out and walk the dog again, but if I encounter anyone on the street I'll make sure not to give them a dirty look like those I received yesterday morning at that street fair I reported on earlier. Willie Nelson once wrote:

Should you stop? Better not, much too busy
You're in a hurry, my how time does fly
And in the distance the ringing of laughter
And in the midst of the laughter he cries


Pretty paper, pretty ribbons of blue
Wrap your presents to your darling from you
Pretty pencils to write I love you
Pretty paper, pretty ribbons of blue


559 posted on 12/24/2006 2:49:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Bronzewound

Granola. I was a joke comeback...


560 posted on 12/24/2006 3:55:50 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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