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13 injured during Cedar Rapids concert"Music as a Weapon"
Cedar Rapids (Iowa) Gazette ^ | 12/22/2006 | Po Li Loo

Posted on 12/22/2006 10:18:44 PM PST by iowamark

CEDAR RAPIDS, IA - At least 13 people were injured during a "Music as a Weapon" concert Thursday night, according to officials at two Cedar Rapids hospitals.

The concert drew a crowd of 7,186 people, almost maxing out the U.S. Cellular Center, which can fit up to 7,500 people.

Of the 10 people who were treated at St. Luke's Hospital for injuries suffered at the concert, one was taken into surgery, said Laura Rainey, director of marketing communications at St. Luke's. That patient was among two people who were admitted to the hospital. The others were treated and released.

Rainey said it's "fairly rare" that the hospital gets patients injured at a concert but that "at times it does happen."

Jason Barnd, 20, of Mount Vernon, was one of three men treated at Mercy Medical Center after the concert. His father, Dan Barnd, said his son's lower right leg snapped just above the ankle when he was pushed on top of the person next to him in the tight crowd.

The tightly packed crowd is what is known as a mosh pit, where people pack themselves as close as possible to the stage. They don't even have standing room -- it's more like tip-toe room.

Often, people in the mosh pit express themselves by jumping up and down on the same spot, known as pogo-ing, and also by body-slamming -- launching themselves into the air onto other people in the pit.

"Lots of people were getting hurt. They're not gladiators," said Dan Barnd, 50, of Mount Vernon. His son declined to be interviewed for this story.

Barnd was hoping to get some sort of compensation from the U.S. Cellular Center for his son's medical bills, but his lawyer told him that the center had a disclaimer written in fine print across the back of the concert ticket that absolves it of responsibility for his son's injuries.

"That's how they can put these things on. If not, however many people can sue them," he said.

During the concert, one of the four featured bands -- Disturbed, Stone Sour, Flyleaf and Nonpoint -- stopped its set to ensure a fan suffering from heat exhaustion could be removed.

Christy Frost, U.S. Cellular Center's director of marketing and programming, said there weren't an unusual number of injuries Thursday night.

"It was nothing that you wouldn't see from a typical rock crowd of 7,000 people," she said. Frost said the center doesn't allow mosh pits at concerts.

The center informs the public of this policy by posting signs and playing a recording.

It also has put in place measures to control the crowd, Frost said. People who have been helped over the barricade in front of the stage the first time have their hands marked. The second time they get helped over, they're told to leave.

These measures, however, didn't stop people from getting hurt Thursday.

"Unless they do something totally different, things are not going to improve if they have mosh pits," Barnd said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cedarrapids; crap; disturbed; iowa
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I have to admit that I like the author's name: Po Li Loo.

Often, people in the mosh pit express themselves by jumping up and down on the same spot, known as pogo-ing, and also by body-slamming -- launching themselves into the air onto other people in the pit.

1 posted on 12/22/2006 10:18:44 PM PST by iowamark
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To: iowamark

I love the names of the bands there: Disturbed, Stone Sour, Flyleaf and Nonpoint.

I think "Nonpoint" just about sums it up for me.


2 posted on 12/22/2006 10:25:50 PM PST by soupcon
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To: iowamark

These sound like a disaster waiting to happen, like in stampede.


3 posted on 12/22/2006 10:26:21 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Believe me, you don't want to get caught in the mosh pit of the LBS charity concert.


4 posted on 12/22/2006 10:29:25 PM PST by soupcon
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To: iowamark

human "moshed" potatoes ..


5 posted on 12/22/2006 10:31:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Merry Something PC.)
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To: iowamark

Wow. Far cry from holding a Bic lighter up at a Led Zeppelin concert.


6 posted on 12/22/2006 10:31:07 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: soupcon
Nonpoint is ok. Not one of my favorites, but I saw them back in 2001, and they were pretty energetic.

I think the singer from Disturbed is a PhD.
7 posted on 12/22/2006 10:31:17 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Actually, I must admit to loving The Walkmen.


8 posted on 12/22/2006 10:34:33 PM PST by soupcon
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To: Aliska

sounds like an Inaugural Ball to me ... without the black tie.


9 posted on 12/22/2006 10:35:30 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: soupcon
No, I don't think that would be my thing, was worried that some of my young 'uns; i.e., grandchildren might be into this nonsense, will have to check that out, since this one isn't too far from me.

What is LBS charity concert? Sorry for my ignorance.

10 posted on 12/22/2006 10:36:08 PM PST by Aliska
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To: soupcon

I'm just surprised people paid $ to watch and listen to that garbage.


11 posted on 12/22/2006 10:37:21 PM PST by darkangel82 (Everyone has the right to be an idiot, but on DU they abuse the privilege.)
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To: Aliska

Small joke. Loose Bowel Syndrome.


12 posted on 12/22/2006 10:46:57 PM PST by soupcon
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To: iowamark

Animals can be driven crazy by placing too many in too small a pen.
Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily does this to himself.

Robert Anson Heinlein


13 posted on 12/22/2006 10:46:58 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: soupcon

OK, that will work lol. Thanks!


14 posted on 12/22/2006 10:55:51 PM PST by Aliska
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To: iowamark

That's about 7,000 more than go to a Dixie Chicks concert.


15 posted on 12/22/2006 11:02:28 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: EDINVA
No, it sounds what Nancy Pelosi has planned for the Four Days of Celebration. Sorry, couldn't resist. Sung to the tune of the Twelve Days of Christmas. On the fiiiirst day of, come on people, come up with something good on this. LBS charity might work in there somewhere, but it's late and I've got to run. I mean get to bed.

I've got to remember which forum I'm on here, opened a real can of worms on one tonight lol. Not this one. Well, not recently anyway.

16 posted on 12/22/2006 11:05:40 PM PST by Aliska
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Barnd was hoping to get some sort of compensation from the U.S. Cellular Center for his son's medical bills, but his lawyer told him that the center had a disclaimer written in fine print across the back of the concert ticket that absolves it of responsibility for his son's injuries

He lets his kid go to this thing and expects others to take responsibility for it?

17 posted on 12/22/2006 11:09:39 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: iowamark

Down with the sickness-- pogoing? Hey, Cedar Rapids- it's 2006!


18 posted on 12/22/2006 11:24:26 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: iowamark

I was at a Black Crowes show years ago when some punks started that "mosh pit"crap.The singer ,Chris Robinson,stop the song and politely asked the idiots to stop it and give everyone else some consideration that wanted to enjoy the show.When they wouldn't stop he stopped the song again and cussed them out down one side and up the other and threatened to have them all thrown out.I always thought that moshing was ignorant anyway and anyone that does it gets what they deserve if they get all busted up.


19 posted on 12/23/2006 2:33:24 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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Ive been to a couple of small Punk Rock shows (few dozen people at most) as an observer (a friend of mine was playing in one of the bands) and the activity has great potential for injury. The people running those kept it under control by hustling out anyone who got too violent, but I could see how hard that could be in much larger settings/crowds.

Funny, I have only a faint idea of the music because I was wearing earplugs the whole time (my ears physically hurt the first time I got just inside the doorway without them in).


20 posted on 12/23/2006 2:53:04 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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