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Assault on Deadly Smoking a Model for Fighting Sprawl (Smoking Ban Next Step)
The Scranton Times-Tribune ^ | 12/22/06 | Thomas Hylton

Posted on 12/22/2006 12:20:39 PM PST by Namyak

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To: justshutupandtakeit

Are you calling me a name???


21 posted on 12/22/2006 1:23:57 PM PST by demsux
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To: elkfersupper

You may disagree but the evidence is against you.


22 posted on 12/22/2006 1:29:08 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: Gaffer

"The freedom of choice whether to smoke or not, regardless of the consequences, IS a matter of personal choice..."

Unfortunately the burden of providing medical care for such poor choices is increasingly falling on taxpayers. For that reason taxpayers are causing their lawmakers to restrain such activity. And, why shouldn't they?


23 posted on 12/22/2006 1:35:30 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley
You may disagree but the evidence is against you.

The evidence is that we can put everybody in this country in a single-family-detached home on acreage in Texas and leave the rest of the country unpopulated if we wanted to do so.

24 posted on 12/22/2006 1:35:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: gas0linealley

The US Census Bureau classifies less than 4% of the land in America as "urban."

There is no "sprawl." The only sprawl that exists is that vast expanse of space between the two ears of the smarxist growth purveyors.

And if you want to preserve farmland or forest, buy it.


25 posted on 12/22/2006 1:41:02 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Namyak

America’s Mein Kampf

“They are in the process of bankrupting the people and government with lawsuits, social programs, financing the UN and foreign countries, environmental programs”

Read my home page.


26 posted on 12/22/2006 1:45:07 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: gas0linealley
Unfortunately the burden of providing medical care for such poor choices is increasingly falling on taxpayers. For that reason taxpayers are causing their lawmakers to restrain such activity. And, why shouldn't they?

Because it's been proven by studies that smokers pay for their own care through axtra taxes.
No anti wants you to hear that, but it's true.

27 posted on 12/22/2006 2:06:53 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Namyak

More proof that freedom is as unpopular in our age as in any time in the past. Eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty. Tyrants, petty and great are always eager to take things away from you for the common good, as they define it.


28 posted on 12/22/2006 2:15:25 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: Namyak

I will lay odds that Mr. Hylton has already "got" his.


29 posted on 12/22/2006 2:18:11 PM PST by CATravelAgent (Unless you're the lead dog, the view is always the same)
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To: sergeantdave; elkfersupper

Have you ever been to Long Island NY?


30 posted on 12/22/2006 2:19:47 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: Just another Joe

"Because it's been proven by studies that smokers pay for their own care through axtra taxes."

Whose studies?


31 posted on 12/22/2006 2:22:39 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley
Have you ever been to Long Island NY?

No.

Why would I want to do that?

32 posted on 12/22/2006 2:23:22 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: gas0linealley

Different governments studies.


33 posted on 12/22/2006 2:28:32 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: elkfersupper

Why? If you visited Long Island you might have a different perspective on the matter we're discussing.

Long Island could be the "poster child" for antisprawl.

It has become a rather unpleasant place to live.


34 posted on 12/22/2006 2:29:12 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley; elkfersupper

"We need to preserve the remaining farmland and forests or we will eventually be in the same position with their products that we are now in with imported oil."

One man's sprawl is another man's opportunity. Man, you've been drinking the Kool Aid! Cut back, LOL!

I live in Dane County, Wisconsin. The liberals here are constantly telling us that our county is over-developed. In the entire COUNTY, only FOUR percent of it is considered "developed." And Dane County is the MOST populated (outside of Milwaukee County), as it holds our State Capitol, all the Hippies and the University of Wisconsin!

http://www.co.dane.wi.us/aboutdc/dcmap.htm


35 posted on 12/22/2006 2:31:39 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Just another Joe

"Different governments studies."

The folks who collect, and spend the taxes. No bias there.


36 posted on 12/22/2006 2:31:48 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Have you ever been to Long Island, NY?


37 posted on 12/22/2006 2:34:18 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: sergeantdave

"There is no "sprawl." The only sprawl that exists is that vast expanse of space between the two ears of the smarxist growth purveyors.

And if you want to preserve farmland or forest, buy it"
****

Good point.


38 posted on 12/22/2006 2:35:06 PM PST by MTMS
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To: Namyak

There are times when I think Mother Hubbard should have strangled all those starving brats.


39 posted on 12/22/2006 2:35:24 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: gas0linealley

Have you ever been to Montana?


40 posted on 12/22/2006 2:35:54 PM PST by MTMS
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