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1 posted on 12/22/2006 11:54:01 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Two things...

1. Out Mayor here accuses people like me who disagree with him of having Eccentric Orbital Rhythms all the time.

2. "Eccentric Orbital Rhythms" makes a really catchy name for a rock band...


2 posted on 12/22/2006 12:01:06 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: aculeus
most of the climatic variations between glacial and interglacial at that time [were] most likely related to orbital cycles

An inconvenient truth.

3 posted on 12/22/2006 12:23:20 PM PST by My2Cents (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell)
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To: aculeus

Once again CO2 responds to earth cycles and not the other way around.


4 posted on 12/22/2006 12:29:15 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: aculeus

How inconvenient for Algore.


6 posted on 12/22/2006 12:39:16 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: aculeus
"Slowly, over time, this coating of microscopic shells and other detritus builds up. "In the central Pacific, the sedimentation rate adds between one and two centimeters every 1,000 years," explains Heiko Pälike"

Except this sediment doesn't settle in nice neat, undisturbed layers. Ocean currents pile them up is some places, sweep them away in others, not to mention earth quakes and other catastrophic events that have happened over the centuries. There are huge deposits of methane ice off the coast of near every continent containing so much energy that it dwarfs that of all the worlds oil deposits. This stuff releases methane and co2 constantly, but for some reason it's never taken into account, nor is it's potential for alternative energy.

8 posted on 12/22/2006 1:04:07 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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"Pälike and his colleagues went considerably further than that, pulling a sediment core from the depths of the Pacific that stretched back 42 million years. Limiting their analysis to the Oligocene--a glacial time period that lasted between roughly 34 million and 23 million years ago-

The pacific floor is dished in, and the mid atlantic ridge pushes the sea floor up; it slopes from the coastlines down to a point that's deepest between the mid atlantic ridge and the coastlines. Wanna bet that sediment drifts slowly towards the deepest parts of these formations? Using core samples of this stuff as measurements of the earths age is just plain silly.
There is no way to predict how much is slides towards these centers a year or how many events have effected it, the rate at which this sediment is produced, that it was always constant, etc etc. What about so called continental drift?

Surely that moved it around a lot in 42 million years. Not to mention that we'd all be dead or very stoned from breathing all that methane gas released from the Methane Hydrate ice formations. There is no way that this stuff can be used to determine what the weather was at any point in history because of these underterminable variables.

Heiko Pälike had better head back to the guessing board if he wants to get more grant money. Surely he could have come up with something more believable than this. It can't be that hard.

10 posted on 12/22/2006 1:30:45 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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"the researchers found that global climate responds to slight changes in the amount of sunlight hitting Earth during shifts in its orbit between elliptical and circular."

So.....it's not the Sun's fault ......it's the Earth's fault.......or the Solar system........or the galaxy
18 posted on 12/22/2006 2:11:44 PM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: aculeus
Al Gore's problem is that his reasoning is circular while his direction is eccentric.

Further complicating things, Gore's rhythm is Koom Bah Yah.

24 posted on 12/22/2006 3:25:11 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: aculeus; Old_Professor; RightWhale

T'weren't the SUVs then, but the Orbital Cycles.

I wonder what kind of mileage you get with them Orbital Cycles. I'd like to visit Mars and stuff.


26 posted on 12/22/2006 3:53:57 PM PST by NicknamedBob ("Well," said the Asimov Robot, "A catenary is a sag, and a parabola is a droop.")
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To: aculeus
"...useless...."? wtf, gratuitous interjection?
34 posted on 12/22/2006 5:53:29 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: aculeus

Let's have the truth. No more political agendas. If the media would just report the facts I would make up my mind without their help. When they "report" in such as way as to try to convince me of something, I don't believe them.


49 posted on 12/23/2006 7:21:34 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: aculeus

Also, doesn't the axis of the Earth tilt from somewhere between 20 degrees and 25 degrees or so? At maximum tilt, 25 degrees, the climate is more temperate. At minimum tilt, or about 20, the climate cools down dramatically.

Interesting that we are about midrange now at 23, and headed downward.

ALL THE MODELS I have seen about climate shows we are due for a mini if not maxi ice age.


53 posted on 12/23/2006 10:24:07 AM PST by djf (The 16th amendment didn't authorize attacks on Americans)
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To: aculeus

bump


58 posted on 12/23/2006 12:21:00 PM PST by VOA
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To: aculeus

"that energy budget"

So, global climate needs a credit card now? Stupid garbage.


64 posted on 12/23/2006 1:02:14 PM PST by Porterville (Destroy the Death Culture of Socialism)
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65 posted on 12/23/2006 1:17:47 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: aculeus

Keppler's Fault.


73 posted on 12/23/2006 9:17:52 PM PST by Professional Engineer (As far as we know, all numbers are imaginary. some just hurt your brain more than others. ~ lepton)
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It's not going to be doomsday, end of the world, but a rise in sea level would affect a very large percentage of humankind."

Deniers and heretics. /sarc

75 posted on 12/23/2006 9:24:28 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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The Real Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming: Skeptics Have Valid Arguments
Capitalism Magazine | December 19, 2006 | Tom DeWeese
Posted on 12/20/2006 10:46:46 PM EST by ancient_geezer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756621/posts


99 posted on 12/27/2006 6:58:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I updated my profile Saturday, December 23, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Note: this topic is from December 22, 2006.
Heiko Pälike, a geologist at the National Oceanography Center in Southampton, England... and his colleagues went considerably further than that, pulling a sediment core from the depths of the Pacific that stretched back 42 million years. Limiting their analysis to the Oligocene -- a glacial time period that lasted between roughly 34 million and 23 million years ago--the researchers found that global climate responds to slight changes in the amount of sunlight hitting Earth during shifts in its orbit between elliptical and circular.
 
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100 posted on 10/05/2009 7:47:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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