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Mayor to push for ban on military weapons
South Coast Today (MA) ^ | 12/21/06 | ROB MARGETTA

Posted on 12/22/2006 8:46:39 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: kiriath_jearim

I'd like to see Massachusetts outlawed, towed out to sea, and sunk! Take New York with it!


21 posted on 12/22/2006 9:10:34 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER ( LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP)
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To: HiJinx; wastedyears

They were using a Bushmaster AR clone. So what's the slight error?


22 posted on 12/22/2006 9:10:53 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Sir Gawain

"I'd like our local delegation to sponsor a bill that takes that type of weapon out of civilian hands ... any type of military weapon," he said."

Gee, Mr. Lang would that include the military weapons of the past, including the Model 1863 Springfield Rifle, or the Model 1903 Rifle, both of which were made in *your* state??

As for me - I'm keeping the President's (Heston) words in mind.


23 posted on 12/22/2006 9:12:41 AM PST by Stoigo
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To: kiriath_jearim
"Is society still willing to accept that this level of firearm is readily available?" the chief asked.

Yup. We decided that a year or so ago when the "assault weapons" ban was not renewed. Next question?

The AR-15 "has firepower that police do not have available to them, except in extraordinary circumstances," Mayor Lang said.

What, you mean extraordinary circumstances like opening up the trunk of the patrol car and taking one out? If your police force is "undergunned", that's your fault, Mayor. What do you tell their widows, that you denied them the ability to protect themselves because they couldn't be trusted with a small, civilian semi-automatic rifle?

Chief Teachman said police are not typically trained to deal with a weapon such as the AR-15.

Really Chief? Are you admitting to negligence in training your officers? Are you saying that your police officers are about as prepared to deal with a serious situation as Barney Fife, and you are as much at fault here as the Mayor?

"Let's apply some common sense to the Second Amendment and modern technology. Why not a bazooka? Why not a tank? It doesn't make sense."

Well, a bazooka is already banned as an "implement of destruction". You can buy a used tank if you have the money, but most people don't. At any rate, the gunnery on the tank would have to be disabled (de-milled) before you could use it. Unless you went through the proper channels and got ATF permission. As far as I know, that's never happened, making it a straw argument.

The AR-15 shoots the same kind of ammunition that small-game hunters use for woodchucks. It is NOT a high-powered rifle. If the mayor and the chief don't know the difference, stop by and see me some weekend when I'm not busy, I'll show you.

24 posted on 12/22/2006 9:14:06 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"We don't need a battlefield in the middle of our city."

We do if those in elected positions are violating the Constitution.

25 posted on 12/22/2006 9:15:35 AM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: kiriath_jearim
Technically speaking, every rifle, shotgun, and pistol is a military weapon. Therefore, this would be the Mayor's first step in controlling all weapons, hunting or otherwise. Will he also take the guns away from law enforcement as well? Criminals will have a field day in his town. Now that is a direct violation of the Second Amendment if I ever saw one.
26 posted on 12/22/2006 9:16:56 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"I'd like our local delegation to sponsor a bill that takes that type of weapon out of civilian hands ... any type of military weapon,"

Interesting. IIRC, Miller held that it was "militia style" weapons that were protected by the Second Amendment. Be fun to see the Liberals go to court to get Miller overturned after all these years of their citing it.

27 posted on 12/22/2006 9:26:31 AM PST by Grut
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To: kiriath_jearim
"I don't like them," he said. "I would never buy them. But I do believe that people have a right to buy them for target shooting or collecting purposes."

The second amendment isn't about collecting, and only about target shooting in so far as it helps keep the militia "well-regulated".

Under the Supreme Court's "Miller" decision, if anything is protected by the second amendment, it's the keeping and bearing, by the people, of military type arms.

28 posted on 12/22/2006 9:27:38 AM PST by El Gato
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To: FreedomPoster

BLOAT ??

What's that stand for?


29 posted on 12/22/2006 9:28:32 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Last Laugh
We don't need a battlefield in the middle of our city

That's what they said at Gettysburg, but guess what.

30 posted on 12/22/2006 9:28:32 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Sam Cree

"My deer rifle, a Remington 700 bolt action"

Or my Parker Hale 1200 in 30-06, which Rebecca Peters of the U.N. Civilian Disarmament Campaign has reclassified as a "medium range sniper weapon" because it is in a military caliber, bolt action, equipped with a scope, is glass bedded for accuracy, and should therefore be banned from civilian ownership.

Note: I bought the rifle _after_ hearing of Ms. Peters' agenda.


31 posted on 12/22/2006 9:29:39 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: FreedomPoster
They were using a Bushmaster AR clone.

Really? My mistake, then. I didn't make the connection between 'Bushmaster' and 'AR-15' when this was reported back then.

32 posted on 12/22/2006 9:30:38 AM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about Support for our Troops)
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To: Sam Cree
I don't know that I've ever seen a left handed firearm?

They exist. A the directorate deputy is a lefty, and has several of them. Bolt action, with the bolt on the left side, pump and semi-auto shotguns with the ejection port on the side, even AR-15 types with the ejection port on the left (those are more rare than the bolt actions).

My shotgun is ambidextrous, it ejects down and the safety is in the middle of the tang, suitable for left or right thumb.

33 posted on 12/22/2006 9:32:05 AM PST by El Gato
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To: D.P.Roberts

Hmm.... interesting.


34 posted on 12/22/2006 9:32:50 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: elcid1970

My deer rifle is in 270, but I think the 30-06 probably has to be the most used civilian round out there. OTOH, the military doesn't use it much anymore that I know of. I think they like the 223 and the 308. 'Course those are also widely used by civilians.


35 posted on 12/22/2006 9:34:11 AM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Mr. Medeiros' rifle had a range of "1,000 feet and is deadly accurate," far greater than police-issue handguns, Mayor Lang said. The gunman hit police vehicles that were hundreds of yards away, according to police.

The same could be said of any common deer rifle. Gonna ban them too? Call 'em sniper rifles. Such an action could have "Unintended Consequences", but give it a try anyway.

36 posted on 12/22/2006 9:34:24 AM PST by El Gato
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To: TheKidster

Buy
Lots
Of
Ammo
Today!


37 posted on 12/22/2006 9:34:45 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"The AR-15 "has firepower that police do not have available to them, except in extraordinary circumstances," Mayor Lang said."

This statement is an absolute lie. Every LEO in the country are armed with surplus military, usually the latest or better than the military.


38 posted on 12/22/2006 9:35:22 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: HiJinx

Muhammed had military training (Army), and presumably went for a weapon he was familiar with.


39 posted on 12/22/2006 9:37:24 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: kiriath_jearim
They can have my bazooka when they pry it from my cold, dead tentacles.

Hizzoner is an idiot. And idiots make laws.

40 posted on 12/22/2006 9:37:56 AM PST by Billthedrill
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