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Eminent domain victim sends her worst wishes
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | December 21, 2006 | A.P.

Posted on 12/21/2006 8:42:35 AM PST by Graybeard58

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To: absolootezer0

Funny, she never mentions this obscene amount of money in all her ravings. I'm just saying....


101 posted on 12/21/2006 9:26:36 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Alouette
The poor shmucks who lived in the double wides were just tenants.

Been there, done that, landlord didn't even give me a T-shirt. Just 30 day's notice.

You seem to be having trouble distinguishing between an "owner" and a "tenant". Having been both, I thoroughly understand the difference.

102 posted on 12/21/2006 9:27:48 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Alberta's Child

What if you drive a $30,000 car and I decide that I'd like to buy it from you. I appraise the car at $2500 but to show what a nice guy I am I'll pay you $8000 for it. If you aren't willing to take the $8000, should the government be able to force you to sell it to me for that price? After all, it's over three times the appraised value of the car.


103 posted on 12/21/2006 9:28:31 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
A corporation's property is private property not public property.

Sometimes it is private. If it's the parking lot and there is a collision between private cars, it is quasi-public. If it is somebody on the property, restaurant or store, to buy something it is quasi-public. This is not at all clear. The corporation exists by the Constitutional authority of the FedGov, and may be owned, which is hardly the description of a private person.

104 posted on 12/21/2006 9:28:44 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: fatnotlazy
I don't ordinarily like eminent domain, but it seems that she did get a fair deal -- an amount well above the appraised value

If she were being moved for a freeway, power lines, canals, or a new city hall then none of us would be saying it's unconstitutional. It might not be nice, but it is allowed for in the Constitution.

We have a problem in that eminent domain was invoked not for public use, but to hand over to a private developer. It used to be that crooked developers had to send guys over with baseball bats or turn off the heat and electricity to evict the old ladies from their apartments. Now they just use the city to do it.

105 posted on 12/21/2006 9:29:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: rwgal

"i wonder how some of these political clowns would feel if it was their home that was condemned for the same reason? "

And vastly undervalued..


106 posted on 12/21/2006 9:29:26 AM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: Wormwood

"Curses notwithstanding, I have a feeling that the developer had better get some damned good fire insurance"

The developer has little blame here. it is the politicians that the developer bought that are responsible.


107 posted on 12/21/2006 9:32:11 AM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: RightWhale

It doesn't matter whether it's Joe's General Store (a sole propritorship) or Walmart (a corporation). Either one is a private entity as opposed to a state entity. Neither should be able to take the property of the other by way of state confiscation.


108 posted on 12/21/2006 9:32:26 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: RightWhale
This is not at all clear. The corporation exists by the Constitutional authority of the FedGov, and may be owned, which is hardly the description of a private person.

Notwithstanding who issues a corporte charter, it is more than clear to me that the constitutional purpose of eminent domain is not to allow property seizures to support corporate enterprise.

109 posted on 12/21/2006 9:32:28 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: TravisBickle

And that is the issue. There is little incentive to offer a true market value if you can go to court and get it by gun point.


110 posted on 12/21/2006 9:33:23 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Alouette

I have no problem removing renters if the owner wishes to. The renters' contract will specify what will happen in this case. As long as he didn't break the contract, more capitalist blessings to him.


111 posted on 12/21/2006 9:33:35 AM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
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To: T.Smith
That makes me wonder, couldn't she have sold the property with the requirement that she become a partner in the venture?

Why should the developer negotiate when it has the State willing to seize property on their behalf?

112 posted on 12/21/2006 9:37:02 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: VRWCmember

It's not an 'entity'. It is a legal person. It is, however a creation of the state and that makes it a public person. The state has not gone so far as to declare every natural creature property of the state this time, but watch: National Health Care will just about complete the trick.


113 posted on 12/21/2006 9:39:03 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: RockinRight
While morally this situation was wrong, I have to say, if someone, government or otherwise, offered me 440 grand for a 140,000 house, I'd take the money and run.

But what if they only SAID your house was worth $140K because they intended to steal it for that?

Do it to me, and I'll load the land with so much cadmium, mercury, and hexavalent chromium that the property will be unusable for a thousand years...Without a house, I'd be judgement proof. So Sue Me.

Ooops, had a little spill in the Hobby Shop. :-)

114 posted on 12/21/2006 9:39:04 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Gorzaloon

I'd want the CHOICE to sell. And would have an independent appraisal done. Reading the article more throughly it appears she was taken for a ride even if she HAD been offered a choice.


115 posted on 12/21/2006 9:40:02 AM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: Graybeard58

I would just set their houses on fire instead.


116 posted on 12/21/2006 9:40:56 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: rwgal

I don't know, but someday they're going to f$%k with the wrong person and their houses will get burned down with them inside. And I will fell no remorse for them whatsoever.


117 posted on 12/21/2006 9:41:21 AM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: absolootezer0
so she's making an obnoxious amount of profit to move her house, and she's still whining about the whole thing?

If the government forced you to sell your Microsoft stock in 1995, at three times its 1990 market value (when it first filed its lawsuit to force you to sell), how would you feel today? (In 1990, MSFT's stock price - split-adjusted - was 0.85. In 1995, it was about $6). Eminent domain for commercial development purposes is simply a way for the government to gang up with private developers to steal money from homeowners.

The weird thing is that folks here are like sheep about eminent domain. In China, they fought pitched battles with armed police and paramilitary troops armed with automatic rifles. Whatever the Kelo decision said, you can be sure that Uncle Sam would furiously backpedal after a few armed confrontations involving body counts.

118 posted on 12/21/2006 9:41:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: NittanyLion

Those who believe that are in the minority and losing ground every day. That doesn't mean their understanding isn't superior, it's just that they are being outshouted by the mob and will eventually have to flee.


119 posted on 12/21/2006 9:41:41 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: RightWhale
Those who believe that are in the minority and losing ground every day. That doesn't mean their understanding isn't superior, it's just that they are being outshouted by the mob and will eventually have to flee.

I'm not sure I'd agree that we're in the minority. In fact I believe the GOP missed a great opportunity to exploit the issue during this election cycle. Having your property taken from you by force is an easy issue to relate to and explain to voters.

120 posted on 12/21/2006 9:44:27 AM PST by NittanyLion
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