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My evening with Sandy Koufax
World Net Daily ^ | December 21, 2006 | Larry Elder

Posted on 12/21/2006 7:05:19 AM PST by rhema

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To: riverdawg

Palmer had the single best pitching motion I've ever seen. He was just a joy to watch. And he had great pacing, too - his games tended to be pretty quick - the Greg Maddux of his day.

Fifteen years, and I still miss Memorial Stadium. No frills, no BS, just a good place to catch a game.


61 posted on 12/21/2006 11:28:48 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: hanamizu

"I saw Koufax strike out 18 in a game at the Coliseum in 1959 when I was a kid."

Then you should be among a fairly small group who remember what a "moonshot" was.


62 posted on 12/21/2006 11:39:21 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Jhensy

Or how about speeding up the NBA where the final two minutes of a game take 30 minutes to play with all the fouling.

They should allow a team the option to take the ball out of bounds, and reset the shot clock when their player is fouled, instead of forcing them to shoot free throws.


63 posted on 12/21/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Koufax struck out the side on nine pitches.

Yes, I remember that. First inning of his no-hitter vs. the NY Mets in 1962. Sure, it was against one of the worst teams ever to be called "major league," but that didn't detract from Koufax' greatness, both on the field and off.

He was my favorite ballplayer as I was growing up, too. I'd suppose that goes for quite a few of us.

64 posted on 12/21/2006 11:52:47 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: truth_seeker

Yep, Wally Moon's pop flies over the high screen in short left field. My mom was a big fan and I got to see a lot of games in both the Coliseum and the then-new Dodger Stadium. My great aunt & uncle would take me to games in the upper upper deck of Dodger Stadium--real nose-bleed seats. You paid to get in with a token--it cost $1!!


65 posted on 12/21/2006 11:58:19 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: TChris
Pitchers still bat today in the National League - if their agents will let them(LOL!).

Koufax, though, was a poor hitter, while Drysdale was considered a good one for a pitcher.

66 posted on 12/21/2006 12:03:25 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: rhema

Having been born in Los Angeles, and raised in LA county. I remember when the Dodgers came to town. We went to the Colosieum a few times before they built Dodger stadium. I saw Koufax pitch in person a couple of times and since I was left handed I was impressed.
They had a great team. Baseball just is not the same anymore. Way overpriced prima donas.


67 posted on 12/21/2006 12:09:03 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: justiceseeker93
Koufax, though, was a poor hitter, while Drysdale was considered a good one for a pitcher.

Koufax was a pure pitcher, Drysdale was an all-round baseball player-pitch, hit, run, field.

A friend of mine got to sit in the Dodger dugout one game when he was a Boy Scout. He said that Koufax talked to him and was very engaging, while Drysdale wouldn't give him the time of day.

68 posted on 12/21/2006 12:13:55 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: kailbo
Do you know why his career was cut short? Was it an injury?

Yes, he had arthritis in his (left) elbow and was concerned that he wouldn't be able to use arm at all if he continued to pitch. Rather than suing the team for exaccerbating his injury with the treatment he was given, Koufax gracefully walked away at the peak of his career. A class act.

If he had gotten the same injury today, he probably could have played longer because of the advances in sports medicine.

69 posted on 12/21/2006 12:17:54 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: EveningStar

Thanks for the ping. Though a Padres and Yankees fan I remember when Sandy was pirching and he was always a class act.


70 posted on 12/21/2006 12:24:53 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: bboop
The 9th inning Vin Scully call of the Koufax 1965 perfect game is out there and easily can be had on the internet. However, the author Jane Leavy found a tape recording of the entire Scully game call, complete except for maybe the first 1 1/2innings.

Her book explains that in 1965, it was not routine to save recordings of games, but that Scully, as a favor to a pitcher who was throwing a no-hitter, would ask the engineer to record the last inning or so of a possible no -hitter to give as a gift to the pitcher. That is why the last inning as recorded. The Dodgers used to sell a 45 rpm phonograph record of that call (but I could not afford to buy one on my meager allowance as a kid).

What Jane Leavy found is a tape recording almost accidentally made by somebody who happens to be an authority in baseball statistics analysis, for his son. The son had to go on a date that night and missed listening to the game, so his father taped it for him. The tape was found in their house a few years ago and appears to be the only extant copy of the entire game call. All this is explained in Jane Leavy's book.

I called Leavy a few years ago to see about getting copy, and she said they were trying to work a deal with the publisher, the Dodgers and the other relevant parties to include the recording with the paperback version of the biography. Apparently they were not able to do that. Maybe legal problems?

I would love to hear the entire game again! As others have pointed out, Scully's call is simply poetry--just perfect...
71 posted on 12/21/2006 12:26:55 PM PST by nvskibum
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To: nvskibum
Vin Scully's call of the ninth inning of Koufax's perfect game (audio)
72 posted on 12/21/2006 12:39:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: zarf
What baseball is missing are teams. Teams with players that fans can attach their loyalties to before they go to another city.

Yes, you hit a home run there! That's one of the biggest problems with major league baseball today: the "here today, gone tomorrow" scenario with much too much player movement from team to team. Both players (and their leech agents) and team managements share the blame for it, but underlying it is the "free agency" structure to which (liberal) management gave in about thirty years ago.

BTW, I don't think it's coincidental that the vast majority of team ownerships, if not all of them, are controlled by DEMONRATS, and the Cammissar, Selig, is a 'Rat fatcat himself.

73 posted on 12/21/2006 1:19:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Vigilanteman
"Gore..bowel movement"

Hey pal, you're not far wrong with that statement. I too have actually heard him speak...wooden robot comes to mind. He was far worse than Dubya who I also heard speak in public. Heard both during the 2000 prez campaign in La Crosse, Wisconsin. Gore might be the worst public speaker I've ever heard. Naturally Big Media reported many times about his horrible oratorical skills. (smirk)

74 posted on 12/21/2006 1:42:39 PM PST by driftless2
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To: EveningStar

OH ES thanks for the ping dude

Too bad I was born wayy too late to see Sandy in prime but my dad did he told me two best pitcher he ever saw in lifetime was Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan


75 posted on 12/21/2006 2:39:45 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: hanamizu

Yep, I went to L.A. Dodger games at the Coliseum too...!!


76 posted on 12/21/2006 2:51:03 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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77 posted on 12/21/2006 2:52:33 PM PST by stylecouncilor
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To: EveningStar

Wa wa, Woo woo. Vin Scully and Sanday Koufax are both one-of-a-kind classics that contribute to my everlasting love of baseball.

And Larry did a great job of writing here. Until the last line. UGH.


78 posted on 12/21/2006 2:54:07 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: rhema

Bump.
My first introduction to Calif. was a much older couple across the street that were diehard Dodger fans.
They had a television and, were hard of hearing.
Me and my brother would stand out in the street listening to the games.
Man that Sandy and Don could pitch.
Man did we hate the Giants. It was a long time before I could acknowledge the greatness of "Say Hey Willie" because he was a giant.


79 posted on 12/21/2006 3:13:41 PM PST by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: rhema

I recall reading that Koufax had arthritis (and I did not know what that was.)

I did not recall that he was only 31 years old at the time.

Fascinating stuff.


80 posted on 12/21/2006 3:16:53 PM PST by Radix (Tag Line remains uncensored)
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