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1 posted on 12/20/2006 3:58:05 PM PST by A. Pole
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Build the wall.

Only legal immigration.

Mexico needs: compulsory education through high school, property rights, anti-corruption legislation, clean water, ...etc.


2 posted on 12/20/2006 4:06:44 PM PST by fishtank
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ping for future.


3 posted on 12/20/2006 4:07:14 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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ping


4 posted on 12/20/2006 4:08:39 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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On the news today, there was a segment on a small town somewhere that was opening it's arms to welcome immigrants. I was only half listening since I knew where it was headed - blather, blather, good family folks, blather, hard working, blather, tax payers, blather, blather. But interesting it didn't distinguish legal from illegals and those one government freebies. Oh, well.


5 posted on 12/20/2006 4:09:00 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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So the "good" illegal immigrants want to do something about the "bad" ones. I guess in some alternate universe, this is logical.


6 posted on 12/20/2006 4:10:23 PM PST by Dog Gone
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I'd like to see their amnesty butts kicked back across the border.

What was Reagan thinking?


7 posted on 12/20/2006 4:26:30 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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Here's the good news Mr. Barajas.

You, your children, some of your nieces/nephews, at least two of your siblings and your parents should all be deported as the fruit of the poison vine.

Hector, you are an excellent example of that poison fruit. You reside here as a direct consequence of illegal immigration and now make your livelihood leaching off society as a political operative.

11 posted on 12/20/2006 5:21:23 PM PST by Amerigomag
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ping for later read.


13 posted on 12/20/2006 5:44:52 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: A. Pole

This is what the politicians don't seem to understand. This whole thing is being handled wrong and instead of allowing people to take part in the American dream, they are having their dreams smashed and their poverty just moved from one place to another.


14 posted on 12/20/2006 5:52:38 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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Its the Here's the numbers debate on the casualties caused by the preditor class that has come up from Mexico and central america. Consider this article Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan

People have been referring to the Captains Quarters as a rebuke to the assertions of the article. The Captain's Quarters makes the assertion that for the numbers to be true it would have to be the case that a small number of people were committing a lot of crimes. That is to say far outside the statistical norm for the USA. The problem is that he didn't actually check the federal stats. As it happens it is the case that illegals tend to be very repeat offenders.

Below are some government stats to back up the article's assertioms

From the FBI crime statistics * An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure. * Murder comprised 1.2 percent of the overall estimated number of violent crimes in 2005. (Based on Table 1.) * There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

Illegal Alien Crime Wave

On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.

CRIMINAL HISTORY

More than two-thirds of the defendants charged with an immigration offense were identified as having been previously arrested. Thirty-six percent had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions; 22%, 2 to 4 times; and 12%,1 time. Sixty-one percent of those defendants had been convicted at least once; 18%, 5 or more times; 26%, 2 to 4 times; and 17%, 1 time. Of those charged, 49% had previously been convicted of a felony: 20% of a drug offense; 18%, a violent offense; and 11%, other felony offenses. Twelve percent had previously been convicted of a misdemeanor. Defendants charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. Nine in ten had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, half had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions. Fifty-six percent of those charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted of a violent or drug-related felony. By contrast, under half of those charged with alien smuggling, a third of those charged with unlawful entry, and just over a quarter those charged with misuse of visas and other charges had previously been arrested. The criminal histories of these defendants were generally less extensive: more than 70% had been previously arrested fewer than 5 times. Sources: US Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, National Security Institute, National Association of Chiefs of Police, US Department of Justice
16 posted on 12/20/2006 6:33:44 PM PST by ckilmer
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