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The Conservative Case Against Rudy Giuliani
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Posted on 12/20/2006 8:29:40 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Rudy Giuliani, a contender for the Presidency in 2008, is receiving an inordinate amount of positive attention.
That's quite understandable since Rudy is charismatic, did a great job on the campaign trail for President Bush in 2004, and his phenomenal performance after 9/11 was much appreciated.

However, likeable or not, having Rudy as the GOP's candidate in 2008 would be a big mistake.
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said.
He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions.
"No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded."

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices.
Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

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To: tacticalogic
[ If I understand it correctly, by that standard every political decision, every vote, every law and piece of legislation is a question of morality. ]

Every?... Using Superlatives can be the biggest mistake..
They are used often by people who lie first to themselves.

141 posted on 12/22/2006 7:05:52 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe
Every?... Using Superlatives can be the biggest mistake..
They are used often by people who lie first to themselves.

I'll agree with that, but we appear to be dealing in absolutes.

The Theology of the Individual is as varied as there are Americans.. Everyone has a theology.. everyone.. Divorcing politics from theology is not possible.. its IMpossible..

142 posted on 12/22/2006 7:18:08 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Politics is the enforcing of "someones" morality..
As is Theology.. two sides to the same coin..

Democracy is the theology of the Mob politically...
A republic splits the Mobs up into theological regions..

Thats why a republic is a much better form of politics than a democracy..

143 posted on 12/22/2006 7:37:17 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe
The question still remains.

If I oppose fedearal laws against say, gambling or prostitution, on the grounds that such actions are not within the Constitutionally enumerated powers of the federal government, is that a moral decision based on theology, and if so how would you characterize that theology?

144 posted on 12/22/2006 7:44:04 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
[ If I oppose federal laws against say ??...]

Government IS "the problem" it is not "A" problem..

145 posted on 12/22/2006 8:02:46 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe

If you can't answer that question, I don't see any reason to take anything you say seriously.


146 posted on 12/22/2006 8:09:45 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
[ If you can't answer that question, I don't see any reason to take anything you say seriously. ]

-OR- you reject a vaild answer because its beyond you.. as it seems to be..

147 posted on 12/22/2006 8:11:40 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe
If government and religion are two sides of the same coin, and government is the problem, isn't religion equally problematic?

You're not good enough at semantic gymnastics to make your evasions my fault.

148 posted on 12/22/2006 8:16:00 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
[ If government and religion are two sides of the same coin, and government is the problem, isn't religion equally problematic? ]

Absolutely.. Religion seeks to replace God as Government(a.k.a. giverment) seeks to replace individual responsiblity..

149 posted on 12/22/2006 8:40:22 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe
God and individual responsibility are not "the same coin".

If I oppose fedearal laws against say, gambling or prostitution, on the grounds that such actions are not within the Constitutionally enumerated powers of the federal government, is that a moral decision based on theology, and if so how would you characterize that theology?

Answer the question, please.

150 posted on 12/22/2006 8:44:50 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
[ Answer the question, please. ]

The powers of the Federal government vs. the powers of the State.. and the scope of each is the question..

The federal government should be the vassal of the States instead of the States being the vassal of the federal government(as they are now).. That is the question, true ;)..

The federal giverment is the enemy..

151 posted on 12/22/2006 8:53:09 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe

Then so are theologies that seek to turn it to their will, against the States.


152 posted on 12/22/2006 8:57:13 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
[ Then so are theologies that seek to turn it to their will, against the States. ]

That was a non-sequiter..

153 posted on 12/22/2006 9:05:38 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe

One has nothing to do with the other? I don't think so.


154 posted on 12/22/2006 9:19:46 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Then you better change your PR machine.


155 posted on 12/22/2006 1:14:14 PM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
"From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, 'Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." -- Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City, Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

As conservative as they come.

156 posted on 02/06/2007 2:26:14 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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