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To: rjp2005

One thing for sure.....Democrats could never send our military to war in this day and age. Without military approval of any plans, they won't go. That's why they didn't trust Clinton. After Somalia, thousands of military officers resigned their commissions.


8 posted on 12/19/2006 10:19:40 AM PST by Ron2
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Many of the officers and enlisted resigned because Clinton left the soldiers in Somalia hanging in the wind to face the Islamic radicals and thugs there. I joined the Army in 1993... Just in time to see Clinton employ M1 Main Battle Tanks, under the command of GEN Clark, against 200 members of a religious sect who didn't pay enough taxes. Bush has never used the military against our own civilians, Democrats have (Leftists, put down the acid and take notes). In addition, leftist staffers and courtiers were allowed into the War Room during the Battle of Mogadishu. These leftists cheered as US Soldiers were killed and openly showed their hatred to the military members in the room. My uncle was there and he took an early out soon after in disgust against Clinton and his ilk.

A heavy brigade or two, the Ranger/SOCOM infantry already on the ground, and a carrier strike group with a USMC landing force would have crushed the "warlords" pretty handily with few casualties. Instead we lost large numbers of under-supported Rangers/SOCOM soldiers and several helicopters. We turned Somalia over to a civil war and now it is almost totally ruled by an Islamic caliphate (Called the "Islamic Court"). Somalia is now a base for terrorism, piracy, and the "utopia" of Sharia law. All because the left was too cowardly and disorganized to stand up against the terrorists and too willing to become dhimmi. Clinton should have been impeached then.

The leftist policy that failed in Somalia is the same one the left now advocates for Iraq and Afghanistan. They never learn... Appeasement did not work in 1938 and it does not work in the 21st Century.

In war, casualties happen (I say that as I am 2 weeks out from deployment). The more wishy washy the military is employed, the more the politicians tie its hands, the more casualties WE have. Our job is to make sure it is the enemy that has the casualties ("no one ever won a war by dieing for his country"). When the US Military is hamstrung, like we were in Somalia, we get casualties. Then we are told to run away. And what happens? Does "Peace" reign when the "evil Americans" leave?? ABSOLUTLY NOT!!!! But the MSM and left left refuse to see that. They refuse to see the bodies of the dead civilians killed by our enemies. Just as when the left refused to see the carnage of Rwanda and Darfur. Instead they blame us, and/or the existence of Israel, for the carnage.

In the real world (not the "Kumbaya Land" the leftist inhabit), hitting the enemy hard and incurring few casualties, brutal as it sounds, SAVES LIVES in the long run. The lives it saves are the civilians of the affected area and our own people, including the "Kumbaya Left" who would not last a month without the protection of the US Military.

The bottom line is either we kill the masters and the ones willing to kill us and their own people to establish their "Islamic Empire" (Dar al Islam) now with relatively few casualties, or we suffer tens of millions of casualties, like we did in WWII (50 Million dead military and civilian), after we fail to stop the true killers early on.

Note to leftist trolls: the "true killers" are the Islamofascists. These are the ones who will kill you and crush all of your freedoms (for real, not like your BDS induced fantasy). I feel I must insert this for the trolls as they seem incapable of the necessary logical leaps.

People would die. These people would be the enemy and their supporters. We either kill them, or we suffer attack after attack like the Israelis do. Is that what leftists want? US bus stops and school buses blowing up?!?! US restaurants being bombed??? If we follow the leftist's last "glorious" retreat/redeployment (from Somalia), the terrorists will pack their overnight bags and come here to kill us. Is that what the left wants??

From some of their protest signs featured on zombietime.com, I would have to say 'yes'. This means either the leftists are truly traitors (aiding the enemy) or too stupid to realize the terrorists they kiss up to are the real danger and are the ones who will kill them!! Either way, it is infuriating to shout about the clear and present danger the Islamic death cult poses to the "liberals" in the West. Only to have these same "enlightened" leftists deny it and call me a NAZI as they spout off national socialist "kill the Jews" and "death to America" B.S. without seeing the incredible irony.

16 posted on 12/19/2006 11:28:34 AM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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