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Lines, anger, police ... A Wii story
CNN Money ^ | December 16 2006 | Krysten Peek

Posted on 12/18/2006 12:26:42 PM PST by BulletBobCo

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To: Owl_Eagle
Is that the one where you hold the controllers in your hands and punch at the T.V. screen like a total dork? And then they fly out of your hands and break your T.V. screen making you look like even a bigger dork?

There's a great spoof of the Budweiser "Real Men of Genius" ads running on the local morning radio here. It effectively skewers "Mister Nintendo Wii Player" for essentially the reasons you cite. Check it out at "www.deliciousaudio.com" (IIRC). Funny stuff.

41 posted on 12/18/2006 1:41:51 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Blue Jays

Nice misdirection.

It wasn't that she bought a toy.
It's that an angry mob seemed ready to perpetrate violence upon her (that it was over a toy is irrelevant) and the cops, reasonably performing their job, got her out of there.


42 posted on 12/18/2006 1:45:42 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: edcoil

I don't know. I've hit every store in a 50-mile radius looking for a Wii. They've been flying off the shelves the moment they come in. My last stop was a Wal-Mart. They got 10 Wii's this morning - all gone by noon. There were still two PS3's sitting there, however.


43 posted on 12/18/2006 1:46:55 PM PST by Doc-Joe
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To: nevergore

My opinion, Go Wii

$250 you are next gen.. yes, the Wii doesn't have the graphics of the 360 or the PS3... but it has gameplay.. Nintendo has as a company refocussed on GAMEPLAY.. so while MS and Sony are busy trying to kill each other on graphics, Nintendos been laughing all teh way to the bank... DS a certified smash, (the first hardware released by Nintendo after changing focus on the game experience, not purely hardware) PSP a doorstop.

Wii is backwardly compatible with the GameCube catalogue, so you can pick up titles for a few bucks at the resale store... which is what nearly all of my titles have been bought from, which yes is not as deep as Sony, but still there are some great games on it... Metroid is a great series, Zelda, and you can't touch Resident Evil 4 (for all the talk of graphics... I'll put Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube up against ANYTHING on 360 or PS2, and you tell me the Cube can't do graphics) if first person shooters are your thing. Lots of good platformers, and younger kid stuff, and Nintendo is far more conscious than Sony or MS when it comes to licensing adult themes on their consoles.. IE, no Rock Star Games pushing out AO titles with some of content "locked" just to get a lower rating so Wal mart will carry it... Nintendo would have pulled the Rock Star licensing agreement in a heartbeat had they pulled that on their system... If you have younger kids.

Wireless compatibility with the DS... The best selling portable system....

And lets not forget us old fogies too... with the virtual console allowing games all the way back to the orignal nintendo entertainment system, and the Sega Genesis etc... the old schoolers can have just as much fun as well.

I have a buddy who has 3 kids, and an XBOX with a pretty large selection of games... he was dreaming of the 360... I suggested he should check out the Wii... for the reasons mentioned above etc.. (his oldest is same age as mine, 10).... he kept thinking 360, until he actually got to play a Wii after launch... now he's gung ho Wii all the way.

Personally I cannot remotely justify 400-700 for a game console, that to me is rediculous. For $2000 I can go buy a brand new pinball machine!... or a fully licensed and legal full sized MAME cabinet for that price range. The full size original Galaga I have in my gameroom as a collectors item sells for $600-$1000... I just can't justify a game system for that.

To put it in perspective, in 1977 the Atari 2600 launched for $199 (in 1977 dollars).. the Wii at full retail is going to set you back $249 in 2006 dollars...

Also the Wii has launched with a very large number of launch titles.... I believe something like 18 or 20 games for the Wii are on the market today.. with scores more coming.. and every major developer has pretty much signed on to the Wii system... mostly because they realize that the new controller is offering them a way to completely change the game experience. Nintendo messed up with the Cube (as much as you can call 25 Million systems, and every one of their sales made the company money, a mess up) and learned its lesson on 3rd party content and the importance of getting developers onboard.

Sony and MS are losing money per unit sold in hopes of market share... Nintendo is making money with every unit sold, they don't have to make it up with market share and game licensing. Combine that with some of the greatest and longest franchises in gaming owned by nintendo or already agreeing to support the new system and you aren't going to go wrong.

Some analysts are already predicting the PS3 will be Sony's last console... now I don't know if I agree with that .. .but it is definately up in the air if Sony will be able to stay number 1... I really don't think the PS3 at its price point, and insanely poor launch collection, will remain #1 console... I don't think its because the 360 has been out for a year either.. I think its going to be Nintendo that is going to just outstrip MS and Sony this generation.

The one weak spot for Nintendo is lack of HiDef, but again with focus on the GAME and the GAME EXPERIENCE taking precidence over just trying to make the visuals better, I don't think its a huge disadvantage... some may disagree.. I just don't.

I still will take original 1980s cabinet games over a lot of newer stuff, in fact, I couldn't even get into the PS1 until Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, and Spyro Year of the Dragon came out... just didn't seem to offer anything other than higher price tag for same old same old.. yea graphics were better, but games were pretty much the same old crap.

I know my current gen console will be Wii, no doubt about it. Hell when PS2 gets sub $100 retail, I'll probably pick one of those up too just for the hell of it, and finally retire the old PS1.. but I won't be PS3 at its current price point, nor XBOX or X360 either.

MS still has some larger issues, while accepted in US, its flopped in many other areas of the globe, including Japan where Video Gaming is a national sport.... etc etc etc.


44 posted on 12/18/2006 1:47:02 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Charles Martel
Nice!!
45 posted on 12/18/2006 1:47:43 PM PST by JZelle
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To: Tolsti

Yes, and they have only pumped out how many?????

They have revised their deliveries DOWNWARD....

Their launch collection is mediocre at best... with the only standout being Resistence Fall of Man

Nintendos owning this season, PS3 was the buzz, until the actual launch.. once they launched and the patheticness of the launch catalogue was obvious, Wii has gotten every ounce of press since... and has revised UPWARD its sales figures and shipping numbers and also isn't losing a few benjamins per sale, but actually making money on every system... a Huge launch catalogue, and an true KILLER GAME with launch as well.. which is ZELDA... Wii's owning this Christmas in terms of sales and buzz.


46 posted on 12/18/2006 1:50:39 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Blue Jays
I don't understand adult fascination with a child's game, either.

I don't think that Xbox 360s and PS3 are necessarily childrens "games". They are computers built to play games and also serve as multimedia platforms. They are marketed to 20 and 30 something year old males just as much as teens. I personally like that the xbox 360 is a media center extender and I also have the HD-DVD player attachment (which I got from circuit city for $160).
47 posted on 12/18/2006 1:51:12 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: AmishDude
Apparently, they haven't learned their lesson from Betamax.

Which is still used in almost every television station in America. Every electronics manufacturer in the world makes a VHS player. So far as I know, only Sony makes a Beta, and that means there is a Sony player in every television station in the United States, Sony cameras pointed at TV anchors, and Sony tapes loaded into every Sony camera.

Sony didn't come out as badly in that deal as everyone thinks. There's something to be said for making a plainly superior product.

48 posted on 12/18/2006 1:56:32 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: aft_lizard

With the miniscule number of units shipped of PS3s the fact you could find one of them on the shelves of a retailer, let alone 3, even if they were the "small" version, tells you how weak this launch has been for Sony...

Wii was the sleeper up and through the PS3 launch... PS3 was everywhere... then the launch happened... and frankly it fizzled. Mediocre and small number of games, and a huge price tag... and only 1 launch game rating consitently beyond average... Sony doesn't have the punch the Wii had... Cheap, Changed the gaming experience completely, insane catalogue of existing games from multiple vendors and franchises through and a huge number of games at launch, and of course ZELDA.

I am not arguing that there are people who will own both systems, or even all 3 systems... but when it comes to most households... they are going to commit to 1 system,a nd Wii will be it... combine that with the fact Nintendo is intentionally going after the non hard corp gamers, and trying to bring the casual game players into the fold, they are appealing defacto to a larger base.... They don't have to get insane game boy Sony fan to buy a Wii.. when they can get 3 or 4 families who are casual gamers to pick up the Wii instead.

With its plan of action pretty sound, its console solid, and its price right, I think you will be seeing Nintendo take this generations crown in terms of installed base at the end of the day.


49 posted on 12/18/2006 2:01:38 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: BulletBobCo

Computer games: a complete waste of money and time, but maybe all of you who like them are satisfied by playing them and need some strange sense of achievement.


50 posted on 12/18/2006 2:02:12 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: BulletBobCo

Computer games: a complete waste of money and time, but maybe all of you who like them are satisfied by playing them and need some sense of achievement, insignificant as gaming is, in your lives. (oops! incoming flames!)


51 posted on 12/18/2006 2:08:33 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: HamiltonJay

They've already hit over 500k, since the newest ones in stores don't have the blu-ray movie. The wii sold more because it's an 'easy' system, low tech relatively, so they were able to make a lot more.

The PS3's catching up nicely in production. BTW, Zelda's getting better reviews for the Gamecube version LOL. Check gamespot.com

Basically it's all a gimmick, and I've heard a lot of complaints about it.


52 posted on 12/18/2006 2:19:10 PM PST by Tolsti
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To: Paulus Invictus

No more than chat boards and the internet.....

and everyone posting here has wasted more than their share of time here....


53 posted on 12/18/2006 2:19:37 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: JZelle; Charles Martel
Hi All-

Back in the day one of my neighbors owned a green version called the "Apple Krate" if my memory serves me properly. I can't recall if the front suspension did anything or was just there for a motorcycle-like appearance.

~ Blue Jays ~

54 posted on 12/18/2006 2:23:13 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Tolsti

Check out their revisions.... Not me claiming Sony has dropped its shipment numbers... its Sony saying it is... Also not me claiming Nintendo is revising its shipment and sales numbers upwards... its the fact they have done it.

Sony's crown looks like its falling this gen... time will tell.

Wii had sold over 600k units in the US alone as of 12/6.. Sony's launch is a general disappointment. Now a bad launch doesn't mean the system is bad, or that it won't be ok in the long run.. but its not good news for Sony.. they are selling less than they predicted, and are losing money too... Not a good thing.


55 posted on 12/18/2006 2:23:36 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Paulus Invictus

Or maybe we just like to relax and entertain ourselves. It's a hobby just like any other, it just happens to be a hobby that's popular enough to spawn a very lucrative industry.


56 posted on 12/18/2006 2:24:08 PM PST by discostu (we're two of a kind, silence and I)
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To: HamiltonJay

Sony's still saying 2m shipped last I saw by end of year. Even if they don't meet that, big deal. It'll catch up soon and I won't have to pay any ebay scalpers hopefully early next year.


57 posted on 12/18/2006 2:24:27 PM PST by Tolsti
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To: Izzy Dunne; untrained skeptic

You are both assuming she is telling the truth in the first place.


58 posted on 12/18/2006 2:32:19 PM PST by freedomlover (Sorry, a tagline occurred. The tagline has been logged.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Changed the gaming experience completely,

Indeed. And I think many parents will find it attractive for the "jump around factor". Your kid is going to play video games, do you buy him a system where he sits on the couch mashing buttons or one where he has to get up and dance?

I will wait and see what games they bring out in the future but the Wii might be my first game console. It is the only one I have been tempted to buy.

59 posted on 12/18/2006 2:32:49 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: Publius Valerius

Maybe so, but you can't make the same case for consumer mp3 players. The advantage to mp3 compression is the universality.


60 posted on 12/18/2006 2:42:59 PM PST by AmishDude (I coined "Senator Ass" to describe Jim Webb. He may have already used it as a character in a novel.)
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