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Powell: We Are Losing In Iraq
WFRV.COM ^ | 17 DECEMBER 2006 | AP

Posted on 12/17/2006 10:41:36 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Exclusive: Former Secretary Of State Says More Troops Isn't The Answer

(CBS News) WASHINGTON -- The United States is losing the war in Iraq but sending more troops to Baghdad is not the best way to change course, former Secretary of State Colin Powell said on Face The Nation.

Powell said he agreed with the assessment of the Iraq Study Group co-chairmen, Lee Hamilton and James Baker, that the situation in Iraq is "grave and deteriorating," and he also agreed with recently-confirmed Secretary of Defense Robert Gates that the U.S. is not winning the war.

"So if it's grave and deteriorating and we're not winning, we are losing," Powell told Bob Schieffer in an exclusive interview. "We haven't lost. And this is the time, now, to start to put in place the kinds of strategies that will turn this situation around."

President George W. Bush is considering several options for a new strategy in Iraq. The most likely choice would be to send tens of thousands of additional troops for an indefinite period to quickly secure Baghdad.

A 3,500-man brigade from the 82nd Airborne Division will be sent to Kuwait soon after the holidays, CBS News correspondent David Martin reported on Friday. The troops would be available immediately should the president order a surge into Iraq.

There are about 134,000 U.S. troops in Iraq now.

Powell, also a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he did not see the military benefit of flooding Baghdad with American troops.

"I am not persuaded that another surge of troops into Baghdad for the purposes of suppressing this communitarian violence, this civil war, will work," he said, adding that the Iraqi government and security forces must take over.

"It is the D.C. police force that guards Washington, D.C., not the troops that are stationed at Fort Myer," Powell said. "And in Baghdad, you need a police force to do that, and in the other cities, you need a police force to do that, and not the American troops."

Powell also doubted that the U.S. Army and Marine Corps are large enough to support such an operation.

"The current active Army is not large enough and the Marine Corps is not large enough for the kinds of missions they're being asked to perform," Powell said. "We need to let both the Army and the Marine Corps grow in size, in my military judgment."

Asked directly what the U.S. should do in Iraq, Powell said:

"I think that what we should do is to work with the Iraqi government, press them on the political peace, do everything we can to provide equipment, advisers, and whatever the Iraqi armed forces need to become more competent, and to train their leaders so that those leaders realize their responsibility to the government."

Powell, who as a member of the Bush Administration pushed the international community to sanction the invasion of Iraq, said that we are not safer now after nearly four years of fighting.

"I think we are a little less safe, in the sense that we don't have the same force structure available for other problems," Powell said. "I think we have been somewhat constrained in our ability to influence events elsewhere."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: backstabber; colinpowell; iraq; loser; powell
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More shivs in the back of our troops. Thanks Powell
1 posted on 12/17/2006 10:41:37 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Colon Bowell--loser.


2 posted on 12/17/2006 10:42:51 AM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I really used to like that guy. Having seen how he "Ran" State, the man is a disengaged coward.
3 posted on 12/17/2006 10:45:49 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Founding Father

He's a real stateman in the mold of our founding fathers...../s


4 posted on 12/17/2006 10:45:52 AM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
,i>"I think that what we should do is to work with the Iraqi government, press them on the political peace, do everything we can to provide equipment, advisers, and whatever the Iraqi armed forces need to become more competent, and to train their leaders so that those leaders realize their responsibility to the government."

What's wrong with saying this?

Powell has advocated an approach that I think FReeper would endorse...The Powell Doctrine of Overwhelming Force.

5 posted on 12/17/2006 10:47:13 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (He has cast down the mighty from their thrones)
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To: the invisib1e hand

an approach in a previous engagement, I should say...


6 posted on 12/17/2006 10:47:56 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (He has cast down the mighty from their thrones)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Police forces don't do very well when they are attacked by terrorists!


7 posted on 12/17/2006 10:48:51 AM PST by F-117A (Who is Jamil Hussein?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What's wrong with what Powell said? Iraq is obviously still unstable with the Sunnis and Shiites fighting each other and all the groups unable to agree on what Iraq should be as a state.


8 posted on 12/17/2006 10:48:55 AM PST by Firefigher NC
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Shut up Colin.


10 posted on 12/17/2006 10:49:53 AM PST by My2Cents (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Colin Powell is an impressive individual, but a failure as a Military leader.

Q: Powell's reaction to the highway of death....explain it. Was it an overreaction?

Trainor: Powell was the military advisor to the President. In a moment expected, he would give his advice based on military merit . But, when he recommended the end of the war, he recommended it less on a military basis than on a political one. For him, the military campaign had become irrelevant, we had pretty much shown that we had beaten the Iraqis. What concerned him now was the political fall out from what was perceived as us beating to death the Iraqis who were innocently trying to escape the guns--the so-called highway of death where television pictures and news pictures showed this long line of destroyed vehicles and presumably a lot of dead Iraqis soldiers in there. So he felt that that would tarnish the image of the great American victory and it was largely a public relations basis that he recommended to the President that we bring the war to a close when we did.

Was it an overreaction? I think in retrospect it certainly was an overreaction. Most of what existed on the so-called highway of death were stolen goods and stolen vehicles from Kuwait city. There were very few Iraqi solders that were found amongst the wreckage. Most of them when the bombing started were smart enough to jump out of their stolen vehicles and run into the safety of the desert so the highway of death was the highway of death for vehicles, washing machines and stolen television sets, but it really wasn't the highway of death for Iraqi solders.

11 posted on 12/17/2006 10:50:53 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If Powell had kept his mouth shut when we had a half million troops in Iraq during Desert Storm, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now. I think we've heard all we need to hear from Colin Powell.


12 posted on 12/17/2006 10:51:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I hope nobody "offends" me today.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"It is the D.C. police force that guards Washington, D.C., not the troops that are stationed at Fort Myer," Powell said. "And in Baghdad, you need a police force to do that, and in the other cities, you need a police force to do that, and not the American troops."

There were Guardsmen all over NYC the evening of 9/11.

I am starting to lose respect for Powell.

13 posted on 12/17/2006 10:52:16 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Pinch and Keller need to check in at the Ken Lay Suite at a Federal SuperMax...)
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To: Founding Father

A lot of name calling here. As long as innocent lives get blown up daily in front of our TVs, we are not winning in Iraq. This is clearly a PR war. We have to find a way of bribing the different factions into believing it is in their interest to stop the carnage and work for a pluralistic government. I only see a temporary surge of troops working if it provides security support for a bold political/economic/diplomatic solution already carefully thoughtout.


14 posted on 12/17/2006 10:52:51 AM PST by Red in Philly
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; All

Why is no one discussing the fact that all these cut-and-run cowards have emboldened our enemies and resulted in the increase in violence over the past two years. How much closer to winning this war would we be if these people could have brought themselves to support this war instead of providing aid and comfort to our enemies?


15 posted on 12/17/2006 10:55:55 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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To: FlingWingFlyer; operation clinton cleanup
Stopping short of Baghdad was not Powell's fault as far as I can see it. The coalition never had a mandate to take over Iraq. It was to liberate Kuwait.

Stopping short on the Highway of Death, he can take the blame on that. My advice would have been to continue to shoot anything moving north AFTER we dropped leaflets, broadcast such orders and made it clear that those that wanted to surrender could, those attempting escape would be killed.

16 posted on 12/17/2006 10:56:29 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Pinch and Keller need to check in at the Ken Lay Suite at a Federal SuperMax...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I really don't understand how WE are losing in Iraq. We are there. Isn't that the goal when you invade a country. To get there. Why is it that because the Arabs have decided to go about killing each other does that make us the losers. I believe it makes them the losers and the fools. I don't even understand why we try to stop it. Let them have at each other. Who cares. We should guard our bases take care of our soldiers and stop worrying about how the Iraqi people are living. They had a chance and blew it. Now we should hold Iraq up as a shinning example as to what will happen to your Middle Eastern country if we are attacked again. We will come to your country kick out your leaders and sit back and laugh at you as you kill each other.

Colin Powell the loser.


17 posted on 12/17/2006 10:57:06 AM PST by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords" Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If Powell had kept his mouth shut when we had a half million troops in Iraq during Desert Storm, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now.

Exactly...

18 posted on 12/17/2006 10:57:27 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Red in Philly
We have to find a way of bribing the different factions into believing it is in their interest to stop the carnage and work for a pluralistic government.

In the north that HAS happened. The three sides, Kurd, Sunni and Shia have decided prosperity is better than revenge.

19 posted on 12/17/2006 10:58:15 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Pinch and Keller need to check in at the Ken Lay Suite at a Federal SuperMax...)
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To: Red in Philly
This is clearly a PR war

exactly!

20 posted on 12/17/2006 11:00:52 AM PST by digger48
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