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Ore. searchers thwarted again by weather ( Day 11 : Mt Hood )
, Associated Press ^ | Dec 17 | JOSEPH B. FRAZIER

Posted on 12/17/2006 7:53:05 AM PST by george76

Fervent hopes and a brief break in the weather brought no satisfaction to relatives and friends of three climbers missing on the dangerous north side of Mount Hood.

The clear, cold morning turned foul by midday Saturday, before searchers on two sides of the mountain and helicopter crews retired for the night because of weather and darkness, finding no trace of the three men.

The Hood River County sheriff's office, a lead agency in the search, said efforts would continue Sunday.

On Saturday, a C-130 with infrared heat-seeking capability from the Nevada Air National Guard took to the skies over Mount Hood for a second day and was to continue around the clock with alternating crews.

After that, "we'll have to see," said Sheriff Joe Wampler.

Cold also hobbled rescue efforts, as some searchers on the north side had to come down because of facial frostbite.

The temporary weather break paved the way for the biggest push yet since the three men, two Texans and a New Yorker, were reported missing a week ago Sunday on what was to have been a quick climb of the 11,239-foot peak.

Ground searchers reported visibility as low as 20 feet as 50 mph winds kicked soft snow into a near-whiteout mist.

"It wasn't quite the dream picture we had hoped for today. But there is the chance tomorrow...

Before dawn, 25 rescue mountaineers began making their way up the south side and another 30 started from the north side, Wampler said. Both teams started at about 6,000 feet.

"I know my son's coming down today," said Lou Ann Cameron of Bryant, Ark., mother of Kelly James...

"It's my birthday. He wouldn't miss my birthday," ...

"The mountain has no right to keep our sons."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Oregon; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: c130; climber; climbers; cooperspur; eliotglacier; hoodriver; missing; missingclimbers; mountaineering; mounthood; mthood; oregon; search
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To: Abigail Adams

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81 posted on 12/17/2006 1:32:08 PM PST by GOP_Proud (How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame." ...Coulter)
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To: Abigail Adams

Does anyone have any updates from Fox, etc?


82 posted on 12/17/2006 1:47:21 PM PST by surfer
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To: surfer
Does anyone have any updates from Fox, etc?

No. They're just continuing to show old footage of the mountain. I could've sworn one of the rescuers was digging at the site of the cave at least 10 minutes ago, but haven't heard anything about that.

83 posted on 12/17/2006 1:49:59 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: surfer

Mainly chatter, trying to get into cave...


84 posted on 12/17/2006 1:50:39 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Palladin

I doubt that the noise increases avalanches releasing early.

Usually humans or bombs are needed to trigger the avalanche...


85 posted on 12/17/2006 1:50:55 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks.

I know that they can install ski lift towers at ski areas pretty high ( 12,500 feet ? ).

But they must be otherwise empty.


86 posted on 12/17/2006 1:52:36 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: surfer

Nope. What time is sunset out there? I'm guessing 4:30 local time? I suppose they have to get the rescuers off the mountain by nightfall, right?


87 posted on 12/17/2006 1:54:40 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: surfer

Housley doing filler, prepare for worst, pray for best. Rescuers still making way down...11,ooo feet, they are probably all a little winded in the rescue( assuming rescuers from elevation of 100' to 1000' above sea level).


88 posted on 12/17/2006 1:55:15 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Abigail Adams

No, they're prepared to spend the night on the mountain.


89 posted on 12/17/2006 1:56:22 PM PST by Raebie
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To: _Jim
IF the C130 with FLIR from NvANG is flying It may well be a C-130H2 - if anything generates RF, they would be able to vacuum it up and get a lock.

More Another little known variant of the ubiquitous Lockheed C-130 Hercules, the C-130H2 Scathe View, is operated by the Nevada Air National Guard’s 152 Airlift Wing based at Reno-Tahoe international airport.

The 152 Airlift Wing operates eight of these unique aircraft that are designed to provide Combatant Commanders with reach-back communications and increased awareness of what is actually happening on the battlefield.

The aircraft are fitted with an extensive communications fit, including SATCOM.

In addition, they carry a FLIR (Forward Looking Infra Red) daylight TV system, a spotter scope and a laser rangerfinder.

A particularly important capability carried by this aircraft is the ability to provide a video link to the US Air Force ROVER (Remote Operations Video Enhanced Receiver) that can provide near real-time sensor fed video footage to laptop based portable ground receivers.

90 posted on 12/17/2006 1:56:57 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Abigail Adams
Some rescuers have descended several hundreds of feet from the summit to this likely cave area.

It is very steep so they are descending on the side... then doing a traverse.
91 posted on 12/17/2006 1:57:49 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Issaquahking

Thanks :

" Helicopter lands on the top of Mount Everest..."

Very impressive.



92 posted on 12/17/2006 1:59:03 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Abigail Adams

Sunrise and set - 7:46 AM 4:28 PM


93 posted on 12/17/2006 1:59:49 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Raebie

How does the weather look for tomorrow? I hope it will be clear and calm again!


94 posted on 12/17/2006 2:05:05 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Issaquahking

Thanks!


95 posted on 12/17/2006 2:05:20 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams

The snow cave is empty.


96 posted on 12/17/2006 2:07:53 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Abigail Adams

" I suppose they have to get the rescuers off the mountain by nightfall, right? "

They should have head lamps with extra batteries to descend at night.

It will be well below zero tonight, so they are likely well dressed and equiped ( stoves with extra gas, sleeping bags, shovels to dig more caves...)

They also have extra food, too.

With four plus feet of soft snow, it will not be an easy night if they have to walk out.


97 posted on 12/17/2006 2:08:13 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: NittanyLion

Ho-lee-crap.

Where the hell did they go??


98 posted on 12/17/2006 2:09:06 PM PST by Raebie
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To: Issaquahking
Moon don't look good, expecting big flares on parachute drops, maybe?


Sunday

17 December 2006 Pacific Standard Time

SUN Begin civil twilight 7:11 a.m.

Sunrise 7:45 a.m.

Sun transit 12:07 p.m.

Sunset 4:28 p.m.

End civil twilight 5:02 p.m.

MOON

Moonset 1:38 p.m. on preceding day

Moonrise 5:06 a.m.

Moon transit 9:39 a.m.

Moonset 2:03 p.m.

Moonrise 6:17 a.m. on following day
99 posted on 12/17/2006 2:10:52 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Raebie
Ho-lee-crap. Where the hell did they go??

That's what I'm wondering. If I had to guess, I suspect the body will be found not far from the snow cave. Apparently the sleeping bag and ice axes were left in the cave, which certainly doesn't bode well for rational thought.

100 posted on 12/17/2006 2:10:59 PM PST by NittanyLion
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