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To: Urbane_Guerilla; Popman

True, Muslims don't worship Muhammed, and that needs to be altered. But they do consider him to be the greatest and last of the prophets, the chosen one of Allah, the perfect man, the highest model for imitation.

Otherwise this is a concisely written and excellent summary that deserves wide circulation.

After all, if you look at the actual life of Muhammed, that supposed greatest of profits and best of men, it is nothing short of disgusting. Only a cowardly bully would admire it. Muhammed was a liar, a thief, a murderer, a coward, a bully, a slave taker, an abuser of women, and a nutcase.

I would agree. It's time to stop pretending that Islam is an admirable religion, one of the great theistic religions, on a par with Judaism and Christianity. It's hard to get around the conclusion that Muhammed was an instrument of the devil, which was the general opinion of intelligent Christians in the middle ages who had to constantly fight off Muslim attacks, raids, slaving expeditions, and the like.

It's important to emphasize that most Muslims are simply deluded, not consciously evil. But if you give credit to an evil religion, then it is bound to have an evil effect on you.

I think these unpleasant facts need to be confronted, not swept under the rub and ignored. The only way to deal with the problem of Islam, which is a serious threat to the survival of civilization, is to tell the truth about it.

Conversion of Muslims isn't easy, because their family and friends will kill anyone who conversts. But I believe it can be done, and must be done. The only alternatives are surrender or bloodshed on an unprecedented scale. That's what will happen if we don't wake up and confront the facts in front of us.


10 posted on 12/16/2006 1:47:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
After all, if you look at the actual life of Muhammed, that supposed greatest of profits and best of men, it is nothing short of disgusting. Only a cowardly bully would admire it. Muhammed was a liar, a thief, a murderer, a coward, a bully, a slave taker, an abuser of women, and a nutcase.

Odd, every week and especially this time of year we are flooded with 'Life of Christ' movies, TV specials.
These range from Biblical reenactments to Christ married, had children nonsense.

Has there been a 'Life of Mohammad' program?
I've never seen one.
Wonder why.

22 posted on 12/16/2006 2:16:50 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Cicero
It's important to emphasize that most Muslims are simply deluded, not consciously evil.

Correct.

Most Muslims I know and I know several, are very ill informed about their religion. One of the biggest mistakes western people, especially Christians make is to think Christianity and Islam are similar. Nothing is further from the truth

Christianity is basically about "truth", Islam is about "submission" In many ways I am far more informed about their religion than they are because of 9/11.

Most Muslims are just like the back slided Christian that go to church twice a year, they will tell you they are Christians, but in reality they are Christian in name only, many Muslims have the same problem

When comparing the Mo man to Jesus.

The Koran tells the Muslim that Jesus preformed miracles, the Mo man didn't.

The Koran tells the Muslim Jesus was virgin born, the Mo man was an illiterate pedophile.

The Koran tells the Muslim Jesus was sinless, the Mo man was told to repent

There Koran tells them that the Mo man was the greater prophet, but because of ignorance they never really understand who Christ is.

30 posted on 12/16/2006 2:36:56 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Cicero

Not to mention, Islam thrives on tribalism.


34 posted on 12/16/2006 2:41:15 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Cicero
Cicero wrote:
I think these unpleasant facts need to be confronted, not swept under the rub and ignored. The only way to deal with the problem of Islam, which is a serious threat to the survival of civilization, is to tell the truth about it.
Conversion of Muslims isn't easy, because their family and friends will kill anyone who conversts. But I believe it can be done, and must be done. The only alternatives are surrender or bloodshed on an unprecedented scale. That's what will happen if we don't wake up and confront the facts in front of us.

How to defeat Islam?

As momentous as the task appears in practice, it is really quite simple in principle, as succinctly stated by Ann Coulter in the aftermath of the World Trade Center attack:
1. Invade their countries
2. Kill their leaders
3. Convert them to Christianity

Indeed. It is "as simple as that", and as difficult, as well.

Do anything less, and Islam survives - and, eventually, may prevail in its goal for world domination.

Since we cannot afford to do anything less and still have the expectation "to win", then it is _The West_ that must recognize the enemy and muster the resolve, stomach, and wherewithal to see this struggle to its completion.

- John

114 posted on 12/17/2006 7:01:55 AM PST by Fishrrman
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