You are a sinner and Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sin.
Our government, and the President in particular, have made the decision not to participate in the battle of ideas. Our governing class knows little or nothing about islam, nor do they care to learn, as long as they have their fat lives to lead.
But just because our political class is brain dead, except to the calculations which make them more comfortable or more powerful, does not mean that Americans cannot conduct their own war of ideas.
Somewhere out there are thousands of clever, creative Americans, who can conduct this war with their wits and their courage. Not many of us have the means or the talent to do it on a mass scale, but many do.
My hope is that those with the means and talent to wage the battle on a mass scale, do so.
Looks like a good list to start with.
The moral bankruptcy of Islam has been identified, discussed, verified and accepted in many circles of right-thinking in America.
Yet I am fairly certain we will never see any major organized public relations campaign to "out" Islam, (from conservatives or otherwise) mainly because most people get squeemish at the idea of pummelling any "religion" -- regardless of how looney and hateful that religion happens to be.
I have no problem telling anyone I come across that Islam is a mental disease, but that is me.
But heck, we can't even get anyone of political note to admit that having a new US Congressman swear in on the Koran is a major step toward balkanized destruction of the United States.
How in the world will anyone tolerate a major publicity campaign stating the evils of one of the world's major religions?
You are a sinner and Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sin.
#1 Should be obliterate the kuhbah. This destroys the need to hadj to mecca. It also invalidates one of the pillars of their "religion". This also invalidates the queeranus, being infallible. One step would take out their entire satanic slave society!
Amin Al Husseini seen inspecting his Hanzar Division made up exclusively of Muslims, mostly from the Crotia/Bosnia/Serbia region. They actively lead the genocide against Serbs, Serbian Jews and Gypsies.
Amin Al Husseini meets with Adolf Hitler in November 1942, weeks before the decision to implement the Final Solution which sent Europe's Jews to the gas chamber. The Third Reich provided Amin Al Husseini with a salary and appointed him Head of the Hanzar SS Division. The Hanzar Division was made of Nazi Muslims and implemented the genocide of 250,000 Serbs, Gypsies and Jews during WWII.
Amin Al Husseini shown here on a Nazi poster recruiting fellow Muslims to join Hitler in the fight against the West and the Jews. His disciples today include Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the leaders of Hamas, Al Qeida and Islamic Jihad.
Amin Al Husseini, future President of the World Islamic Congress (1961) and founding father of the Arab League (1944) inspects his Muslim Nazi troops, the Hanzar Division. Amin Al Husseini making the traditional nazi salute.
Yasser Arafat became a disciple of Amin Al Husseini since the age of 17. Here: recent picture of Palestinian soldiers under the leadership of Arafat making the traditional Nazi salute.
WWII . Amin Al Husseini spent most of the war in Berlin. He was on Hitler's payroll as he lead the Hanzar Division of Muslim SS and played a lead-role in determining the fate of Europe's Jewish community.. From Berlin, Amin Al Husseini helped organize the transfer of Nazi officers into the Middle East
Amin Al Husseini inspecting his Nazi troops, the Hanzar. Here, he is showing a young Muslim recruit how to use his rifle. Amin Al Husseini himself had been an officer in the defeated Ottoman Islamic Empire of World War I.
I'm surprised clinton hasn't converted then..
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I would add that in Islam there is no meaning or redemptive aspect to human suffering. Islam can't explain why good Muslims have to suffer or why Islam has been so unsuccessful in recent centuries. Only Christianity can properly explain the salvific role of human suffering.
For now, I'm going to assume that the ideological battleground is the Muslim world. I don't think most of these proposals are workable in the Muslim world. A few might have a bit more currency with the non-Muslim world, but I doubt their overall utility there. The ideological war in the West has a lot more to do with the old left/right hatreds than it does with Muslim culture.
One, the only way to convince a Jihadist he's going to hell is for another orthodox Muslim to tell him that. I don't think Ahmad al-Muj is terribly interested in the theological musings of Freepers, but he might listen to a mufti or an ayatollah with a sufficiently large pulpit. He may also listen to a family, clan, or tribal leader -- depends on how far gone he is.
Two, exploiting class-envy to deconstruct religion is a bit too Marxist for me, especially when many terrorists aren't that poor anyway. Disparities of wealth develop anywhere with sufficient wealth, it's only natural for the advantaged to amass whatever wealth they can. We need the Islamic world to reform commerce and property rights so the advantage passes from the de facto aristocracy to a meritocracy. This may be accelerated by instituting representative government while reforming Islamic education beyond the usual array of madrassas and state-sponsored bachelors' in Islamic history. It may be useful to set up American-run universities in Iraq and Afghanistan; they'd be electromagnets for terrorism, but they could train future leaders. We already do it for their military, why not their civilians?
Three, it is a point of pride to orthodox Muslims that they "protect" their women, and to Muslim women that they are more pious than poorly-dressed nonbelievers; to them, we treat our women like garbage. This is a private religious matter for most Muslims. But I agree that those societies that limit the movement of women or submit them to cruel punishments need to reform. After changes in codified law, the best way to deal with it would be to support those ulama who have liberal views regarding women, ideally through open scholarship. Think widespread reports on seventh-century Muslim women going about without veils, or how the change in the sex ratio since then has fundamentally changed marriage. Covert funding and propagandizing might get it done, but if it were uncovered, we'd lose a great deal of face.
Four, we already saw what happened when the Pope brought that idea up. It's a non-starter.
Five and six are pretty good ideas, but a soft touch is needed -- this could best be carried out by the academe, using traditions of Western rationalism (which are uncommon, but not unheard of in the Muslim world). Humanizing Muhammad and recasting the Quran as an inspired text, rather than the virtual embodiment of Allah it's become, would go a long way towards modernizing Islamic culture. It could set up a chain-reaction doing away with established fiqh ("jurisprudence") and bringing back itjihad ("reasoning" in the application of sharia to circumstances unforeseen by Muhammad).
Seven misses the mark completely, since Muslims do not worship Muhammad. Even if they did, telling them that the only way to defend their religion is with violence -- as part of a campaign to delegitimize their religion -- is probably going to provoke more violence.
Eight is another idea that Muslims won't grasp. To orthodox Muslims, Jews and Christians were always safe and happy under the Caliphate. The Crusades and the State of Israel messed things up, but their religion at its height -- the era to which they long to return -- was very tolerant. It might be useful to remind them of this fact, that they've failed in their responsibilities to their dhimmies, but accusing the religion of being inherently violent will shut down the listener and any chance of delivering a message.
Nine, Islam certainly has a concept of forgiveness, and love. (Maybe not the agape you're thinking of, though.) I don't know if it has a "golden rule," but a Muslim would counter that Western culture has no "rule of submission." You're assuming that his values are the same as your values, and that he will find wrong with his religion exactly the same things you find wrong with it. He won't.
Ten is good, but the wording is a bit polemical. (Ya think?)
Please read Mr. Gawthrop's article in the Fall 2006 issue of The Vanguard. He describes the centers of gravity, critical vulnerabilities, and seams that can be exploited in the ideological war.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
How you gonna deal with people who won't listen to reason or logic?
Those are unlikely to work.
It it trying to use intelectual arguments on individuals with only the capacity for emotional thinking.
In addition many of those who are invested in the cult of islam are told they personally are direct decendants Mohamed. In a culture where family ties are blood sacred, you can overcome the notion of direct lineage.
In fact how many of the Islamic factions are factions because of "who is a decendant."
The only way to stop the cult of islam is unquestioned victory Ulysses S. Grant style.
Your premis is all wrong. Islam is not Mohammed worship. Allah is worshipped. Mohammed is the messenger.
Summary of Islam: a small percentage of Muslims commit murder in the name of God, while the other 99% endorse the murders by doing absolutely nothing to stop them.
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Every day. Every place. Every time you see one.
LAUGH at them.
Titter, giggle, gape like you're seeing a three-headed, spotted alien.
Treat the rag-draped women walking with their masters like the freak shows they are. Avoid dealing with them at all levels.
Ostracize. Shun.
And laugh.