Posted on 12/16/2006 4:59:54 AM PST by Hadean
Pardon my Saturday morning cynicism, but I just wake up skeptical of news stories that portray the motivation of elected officials as stemming from concern about right, justice, and the American way -- even if they come from the good State of Georgia.
Nor does any other state in the US. Good for Georgia!
They aren't being made a human sacrifice, they are being asked to pay out of state tuition.
When my daughter decided to go to Arizona State University she too would rather have paid in state tuition fees, but she had to pay out of state tuition, those are the rules.
WTF? Why doesn't the law apply to *all* illegal students instead of just the "high-performing" ones? What is the purpose of targeting illegals with high grades? This makes no sense at all.
I think it was on a web link. I used quotes to emphasize that I wasn't the one using the term.
they shouldnt' subsidize the tuition of in state students, that is the root of the problem...
We can only hope this is the beginning of a new federalism.
After reading 66 posts on this tread I find it interesting that no one has seen the obvious.Arrest the the presidents of the schools for admitting them in the first place.
How asinine is it to argue over in state or out of state tuition for students that should not even be enrolled.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I believe that the congress wanted to pass a bill that would have made border-hopping a misdemeanor.AS far as I know now however,it is a civil and not a criminal infraction.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Let them enlist in the military. They will be fast tracked for citizenship.
Actually, in Common Law, that is not correct, though few people are aware of it.
Ordinarily, in civil law, a contract or transaction is not a valid agreement unless some "consideration" has changed hands; that is, one or both parties must gain something from the other out of the deal.
However, the opposite holds true as well. If you provide consideration in the absence of a contract, you may be contractually held to *continue* providing that consideration, if whoever you have given it to has become dependent on it. The consideration has created a de facto contract.
Say a man promises his daughter that he will pay her way through college. However, in her Junior year, she dates someone who her father doesn't approve of, so he tells her to stop dating him or her father will cut off her tuition.
The daughter can sue her father, and may win, because his earlier promise contained no such threat--it was not part of the deal.
Much more common is a married man who has supported children for years before discovering that his wife cheated on him, and they are not his biological children. By *assuming* responsibility for them since birth, however, the courts find that he is stuck with paying child support for them, even if he divorces his wife.
Now I say this to justify how if a child is brought into the US illegally, but though illegal has been given an education by the State to the point where they have become dependent on the American way, our social system, our language and culture; that the US may in Common Law be indeed obligated to continue providing the support.
Certainly, it is bizarre to suggest taking a random teenage boy or girl out of school, drive them to the border and expelling them from the US into a foreign country. Their parents would be in a complete panic.
In fact, I had a friend who was a 16-year-old red-haired Irish-American with a tan, who was picking oranges when he was held at gunpoint by the INS. Unable to produce identification, even though he spoke perfect English, he was kicked across the border into Nogales, Mexico. An utterly terrifying experience, he had to beg strangers for a quarter to call home, for his father to drive 250 miles to bring his wallet to him.
But his experience is far from unique. Young children are often held by the INS for weeks, because if their parents show up to claim them, the whole family will be deported, and the INS won't release them to other relatives. Often the parents don't even know where there children are or who has them, and are frantic for obvious reasons. California, in particular, specifically forbids illegal alien sweeps through public schools because of this problem.
But I know children who *are* as American as you can get, yet are illegal. I cannot countenance throwing such children across the border any more than I would respect throwing them in a prison cell with rapists and murderers, just for being who they are.
And do something about the anchorbaby situation, but not allowing these kids to go to college is stupid, because they will NOT be made an example of. If they're smart enough to go to college, let them go.
Well, then, marry her.
It's amazing the amount of heart tugging personal stories you know concerning illegal children who are as American as apple pie.
What are the odds?
Sam Zamarripa is one of those politicians who places race above nationality. He will do whatever he can to help his fellow Hispanics, while forsaking those Americans he is supposed to represent in Congress.
This is what you ignore:
When we are not hard on these illegal alien children there is even more incentive for Mexicans and others illegal aliens to come here and bring their illegal alien children with them.
You are making America even more hospitable to illegal aliens when you say illegal alien children should be fast tracked to citizenship.
Conversely you have said nothing about all the illegal alien kids who are gang members and criminals who should be deported ASAP. Some of them have only know life in the USA
Everything you have posted here gives illegal aliens even more incentives to stay and never go home. You are making them too comfortable.
Children in prison cells with rapists and muderers? What are you talking about?
I've never really been a student of numerology, but there's the hysterical, melodramatic, misleading character of your comments on the one hand to take into consideration and then there's the fact that you signed up on 666 on the other hand and I just have to admit it kind of 'creeps' me out, so to speak.
Is there an exorcist in the house?!!
LOL!
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