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To: drellberg

One service member is one too many to loose in a war. What gripes my a** is all this liberal talking about the deaths of our military soldiers in Iraq.

Have any of them bothered to look at the American cemeteries in France and, Germany?

We have more invested in human suffering in these two countries than we will ever have in Iraq, but the MSM will not discuss this, nor will a liberal!!!!!!!


9 posted on 12/16/2006 6:02:22 AM PST by buck61
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To: buck61

New talking point: The number of American Servicemen killed in wars started during a Democrat Administration, (WWII, Vietnam) vs. American Servicemen lost in wars started during a Republican Administration.


13 posted on 12/16/2006 6:21:40 AM PST by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: buck61

We have more invested in human suffering in these two countries than we will ever have in Iraq, but the MSM will not discuss this, nor will a liberal!!!!!!!
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because they have to perpetuate the fallacy that war is not the answer. To the liberal war can only bring death and suffering. What they are afraid to admit is that winning a war and defeating the enemy leads to lasting peace.


33 posted on 12/16/2006 7:46:40 AM PST by photodawg
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To: buck61

They wont compare it to real wars because they want it to be a "situation to be solved" as Nancy P said. Heck they have an intel chair who has not seen the need to learn about Shiite/Sunni. They live in a theoretical bubble where plans and exit strategies rule and there is no blood. But we let them get away with this bs by ignoring the fact that their results are never evaluated in their precious, noble sounding programs and wars on poverty and the like.


35 posted on 12/16/2006 7:51:33 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: buck61

Infoplease.com
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html

America's Wars: U.S. Casualties and Veterans

American Revolution (1775–1783)
Total servicemembers 217,000
Battle deaths 4,435
Nonmortal woundings 6,188
War of 1812 (1812–1815)
Total servicemembers 286,730
Battle deaths 2,260
Nonmortal woundings 4,505

Indian Wars (approx. 1817–1898)
Total servicemembers 106,0001
Battle deaths 1,0001

Mexican War (1846–1848)
Total servicemembers 78,718
Battle deaths 1,733
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 11,550
Nonmortal woundings 4,152

Civil War (1861–1865)
Total servicemembers (Union) 2,213,363
Battle deaths (Union) 140,414
Other deaths in service (nontheater) (Union) 224,097
Nonmortal woundings (Union) 281,881
Total servicemembers (Conf.) 1,050,000
Battle deaths (Conf.) 74,524
Other deaths in service (nontheater) (Conf.) 59,2972
Nonmortal woundings (Conf.) unknown

Spanish-American War (1898–1902)
Total servicemembers 306,760
Battle deaths 385
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 2,061
Nonmortal woundings 1,662

World War I (1917–1918)3
Total servicemembers 4,734,991
Battle deaths 53,402
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 63,114
Nonmortal woundings 204,002
Living veterans fewer than 500

World War II (1940–1945)3
Total servicemembers 16,112,566
Battle deaths 291,557
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 113,842
Nonmortal woundings 671,846
Living veterans 4,762,0001

Korean War (1950–1953)
Total servicemembers 5,720,000
Serving in-theater 1,789,000
Battle deaths 33,741
Other deaths in service (theater) 2,827
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 17,730
Nonmortal woundings 103,284
Living veterans 3,734,0001

Vietnam War (1964–1975)
Total servicemembers 8,744,000
Serving in-theater 3,403,000
Battle deaths 47,410
Other deaths in service (theater) 10,789
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 32,000
Nonmortal woundings 153,303
Living veterans 8,295,0001

Gulf War (1990–1991)
Total servicemembers 2,225,000
Serving in-theater 665,476
Battle deaths 147
Other deaths in service (theater) 382
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 1,565
Nonmortal woundings 467
Living veterans 1,852,0001

America's Wars Total
Military service during war 42,348,460
Battle deaths 651,008
Other deaths in service (theater) 13,998
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 525,256
Nonmortal woundings 1,431,290
Living war veterans 17,578,5004
Living veterans 25,038,459

1. Veterans Administration estimate as of Sept. 30, 2002.
2. Estimated figure. Does not include 26,000–31,000 who died in Union prisons.
3. Years of U.S. involvement in war.
4. Approximately 1,065,000 veterans had service in multiple conflicts. They are counted under each conflict, but only once in the total.
Source: Department of Defense and Veterans Administration.


45 posted on 12/16/2006 8:19:00 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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