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Top Ten Junk Science Moments for 2006
FoxNews ^ | 12/15/6 | Steven Milloy

Posted on 12/15/2006 7:55:40 AM PST by ZGuy

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1 posted on 12/15/2006 7:55:41 AM PST by ZGuy
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The Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology is an "anti-development group"? This guy comes across as kind of an idiot.


2 posted on 12/15/2006 8:09:45 AM PST by ndt
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Yes, kind of an idiot. His commentary about global warming is welcome, but his defense of trans fats is ludicrous. GRAS is no harbinger of healthfulness. Hydrogenated fats are slow poison, and such has been known for decades. Their sole benefit is an economic one to their producers and junk-food manufacturers.


3 posted on 12/15/2006 8:29:08 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Trans-fats are delicious. MYOB.


4 posted on 12/15/2006 8:31:37 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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8. Woodpecker Racket. A reported sighting by an anti-development group of the thought-to-be-extinct Ivory-billed Woodpecker [was debunked]. Environmental groups used the “sighting” to convince a judge to stop a $320,000,000 Army Corps of Engineers irrigation project.

I've read up on the Ivory-billed Woodpecker issue. The people involved are reputable and are also convinced that they saw one. They may be wrong, but they are not misrepresenting what they believe happened.

5 posted on 12/15/2006 8:34:00 AM PST by RonF
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To: ndt

IS the Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology anti-developement? Not knowing anything about it, I can't say it's not, since the name is no indication, one way or the other. Is it possible that they are a bunch of liberals, who saw a way to stop an irrigation project that they felt might mar mother earth's image? Or was the whole pecker-wood sighting legitimate? Just asking, since you seem to have some expertise.


6 posted on 12/15/2006 8:36:03 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: jim35

Ditto. If I eat way too much of the stuff cooked in oils without trans-fats I still will get fat.


7 posted on 12/15/2006 8:37:42 AM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: RonF

"...on the Ivory-billed Woodpecker issue. The people involved are reputable and are also convinced that they saw one."

Well, ok. But are the environmental groups who lobbied to stop the irrigation project also just as pure? Pardon me if I seem a bit suspicious...but it does seem like a pretty small bit of proof to stop a huge developement.


8 posted on 12/15/2006 8:38:34 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: MPJackal

"...without trans-fats I still will get fat."

Hmm. Maybe it'll be a healthy kind of fat?


9 posted on 12/15/2006 8:39:55 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: jim35
"IS the Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology anti-developement?"

It's the Ornithology lab at Cornell University. No doubt there are some liberals in there but it's not a political organization by any means.

On the other hand, Steven Milloy is political and kind of a jerk from what I understand. Thats not to say his site is 100% B.S., I'd put the number somewhere around 30%.
10 posted on 12/15/2006 8:43:19 AM PST by ndt
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
His commentary about global warming is welcome, but his defense of trans fats is ludicrous. GRAS is no harbinger of healthfulness. Hydrogenated fats are slow poison, and such has been known for decades. Their sole benefit is an economic one to their producers and junk-food manufacturers.

And so what? What is your point? Are you saying that junk food manufacturers should also be banned?

Where is it written in the Constitution that the Nanny State has the right to ban a legal product? Educate the public by all means, but I, for one, am very wary of the food police or anyone who would decide what I can and can not eat. If they aren't paying for my housing, food bill and health care, which they are not, then it is none of their damned business what I choose to put in my mouth.

And besides, if trans fats were wiped out, where would I get my once a year Twinkie fix?

11 posted on 12/15/2006 8:51:13 AM PST by mort56
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To: MPJackal

(s) perhaps we need a status tax... too fat you are taxed for public overweightness.(/s)


12 posted on 12/15/2006 8:57:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: smokinpork
The bad hurricane prediction wasn't "junk science." It was a bad prediction.

When weather scientists join the global warming choir and orchestra it's called politics.

14 posted on 12/15/2006 9:07:59 AM PST by delacoert
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To: mort56; RightOnTheLeftCoast
"Are you saying that junk food manufacturers should also be banned?"

I didn't see him say that at all. Questioning the validity of Steven Milloy "science" does not equate to proposing any form of legislation.
15 posted on 12/15/2006 9:24:32 AM PST by ndt
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To: jim35
It makes one morbidly obese, but it's the good kind of morbidly obese.
16 posted on 12/15/2006 9:31:12 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: delacoert

"When weather scientists join the global warming choir and orchestra it's called politics."

Actually global warming is not really in question, it's easily documented. The question is what is causing it and how far will it go. IOW, it was just a bad prediction unless they specifically chalked it up to something.


17 posted on 12/15/2006 9:32:55 AM PST by ndt
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To: ZGuy

>> Cosmic ray study fails to penetrate lead-lined media. Researchers provided evidence that just 5 years of cosmic ray activity can have 85 percent of the effect on the Earth’s climate as 200 years of manmade carbon dioxide emissions. <<

Huh? Can anyone get me more information on this?


18 posted on 12/15/2006 9:34:52 AM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Their sole benefit is an economic one to their producers and junk-food manufacturers.

You seem to have forgot the pocket book and convenience of consumers, who don't like potato chips and such to go rancid within days.

19 posted on 12/15/2006 9:36:46 AM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: ndt

I think the reporter is referring to the Big Woods Conservation Partnership, which is an anti-development group and which Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology is a member.


20 posted on 12/15/2006 9:40:40 AM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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