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Shiite? Sunni? Some in US learn who's who.
Christian Science Monitor ^ | December15, 2006 | G. Jeffrey MacDonald

Posted on 12/14/2006 11:46:04 PM PST by La Enchiladita

While some in Congress made gaffes, police, businesses, and others are boning up on Muslim culture.

Some in Congress may need a primer on Islamic extremists. Five years after 9/11, three members of the House Intelligence Committee in recent interviews couldn't answer basic questions about who's Sunni and who's Shiite in the Muslim world. But other American institutions are already boning up - especially when they have a stake in doing so. For example:

• Law-enforcement agencies, from the FBI to the New York Police Department are learning Muslim customs in attempts to do their jobs more effectively.

• Major hospitals, including one in Tampa, Fla., are training staff to honor Muslim beliefs about the body.

• Business groups are studying Islamic law in order to raise capital among Muslims, who aren't allowed to charge interest.

In general, Americans don't know much about Muslims, surveys show. The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that the share of those saying they knew "not very much" or "nothing at all" about Islam actually grew from 61 percent in 2001 to 66 percent in 2005. In another 2005 Pew finding, 62 percent failed to identify Allah and the Koran as the terms Muslims use for God and sacred scripture.

Certain key sectors of US society also display a dangerous ignorance, Muslim advocates say. Topping the list this month is Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D) of Texas, the incoming chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. In an interview with Congressional Quarterly last week, he could identify the historic Sunni-Shiite split but didn't know that Al Qaeda is Sunni or that Hizbullah, which fought Israel this summer in Lebanon, is Shiite.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabianjungle; dimmis; iran; iraq; islam; muslims
The Federal Bureau of Investigation, for instance, will emphasize Muslim culture when it expands introductory training for new agents from 18 to 21 weeks next month. In upcoming sessions, trainees will "drill down deeper" than they have in the past, for instance, into differences between radical Shiite cultures and radical Sunni ones, says Keith Slotter, assistant director of the FBI's training division. For the first time, new agent training will also cover dynamics surrounding suicide bombing.

"When a person from another culture says something, the meaning behind the words may not be the literal translation that an agent might want to jump to," Mr. Slotter says. "There are so many different nuances and aspects [that] to be an effective interviewer ... you're going to need those cultural skills."

Urban police are taking similar steps. About 100 members of the New York Police Department's hostage negotiating team, for instance, earlier this year spent a day learning to foster cooperation by honoring Muslim customs. For example, when entering a home, leave dogs outside and don't step on prayer rugs. In San Jose, Police Chief Rob Davis is a Mormon, but he has in the past fasted each day during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan in order to foster understanding and closer ties with Muslims in his city.


1 posted on 12/14/2006 11:46:06 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

Have the FBI contact me, please. ;)


2 posted on 12/14/2006 11:58:26 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; OldFriend; jeffers; Fitzcarraldo; BigSkyFreeper; GOP_Proud; rebel_yell2; Cindy; ...

Unnecessary PC nonsense ping.


3 posted on 12/14/2006 11:59:01 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: sageb1

Okay. ;^) It's a little worrisome that the FBI needs this training.


4 posted on 12/15/2006 12:00:14 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: La Enchiladita

"It's a little worrisome that the FBI needs this training. "

Just a tad.


5 posted on 12/15/2006 12:01:13 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Liberal Bob

ping


6 posted on 12/15/2006 12:19:40 AM PST by Cindy
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To: La Enchiladita

It's really sad to know that we are doing things to satisfy the Muslim standards for the sake of political correctness. i think it should be a common sense for our leaders to put limits regarding these things. Because whatever standards of religion these muzzies have, they are the newcomers, they should adjust not us... we are only showing them that in this way they will defeat us... 'coz literaly they can't defeat us with conventional warfare.


8 posted on 12/15/2006 1:42:41 AM PST by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Nothing is changing, these guys do a lousy job and they don't have to answer to anyone. The year after the 9/11 attacks, my husband had a request to put a Muslim kid aboard a tanker ship , as an intern. My husband had been the mgr of fleet staffing for 8 1/2 years and never had a Muslim apply for a job aboard a ship and after all the pilots training and the threat to the oil industry, my husband was skeptical. He called the FBI and asked to have the kid vetted. The agent never called him back.

So, my husband put the kid aboard the oldest tanker that the company had, one that didn't go to one of their own refineries. A year later that refinery reported divers seen filming their docks and two stolen security trucks.


9 posted on 12/15/2006 1:54:56 AM PST by Eva
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To: La Enchiladita
Shiite? Sunni? Some in US learn who's who...

Although, we should not care one bit.

This is crazy. Is this a 9-11 Comission recommendation the Democrats are pushing?

10 posted on 12/15/2006 2:15:32 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Know thy enemy...nuff said.
11 posted on 12/15/2006 3:01:22 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
Know thy enemy...

Neutralize thy enemy...

12 posted on 12/15/2006 3:11:52 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
"Neutralize thy enemy.."

You have to know them to do that in the this case. Knowledge of the enemy is what separates the Generals from the foot soldiers.

13 posted on 12/15/2006 3:20:44 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: La Enchiladita

The dead ones require little understanding...


14 posted on 12/15/2006 4:49:37 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Earthdweller; Sir Francis Dashwood; Yehuda

What you have here is a combination of PC pandering in some cases, and an alarming lack of real information in others. So, you're both right.

The FBI should have already been trained in the "nuances" long ago, and congress-critters should have the basics down pat. Although too much attention to particulars is not going to help us become victorious. All we really need to know is in post #7.

As for the diversity training for hospitals, police departments, et al, the muslims need to adapt to us not the other way around. That, or stay in a muslim country and have your "beliefs honored" there.


15 posted on 12/15/2006 9:06:46 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: Yehuda
Guess where the Feds are geting their "nuance" from.

Sunni? Shiite? Wahhabi? Hah!

17 posted on 12/15/2006 9:17:03 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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