[CitizenUSA]

ndt wrote: "Despite the historical alliances, the value voters and the libertarians really do not have that much in common."

Not true at all! As a religious fundamentalist who associates with other, very conservative Christians, I can tell you we share a great deal with the libertarians. Our differences are very minor. Please don't fall into the MSM depiction of religious fundamentalists as people who want to use the power of the federal government to force everyone to submit to our religion. I'm sure a very, very small minority of Christians would try it, but the vast majority of us believe in letting you make religious decisions for yourself. That gay-bashing church everyone constantly hears about in the news is NOT representative of 99.99% or more of Christians (they aren't even Christian in my book). If you doubt me, attend some Bible-believing churches and see for yourself if they put their faith in government over God.

[ndt]

"Our differences are very minor. Please don't fall into the MSM depiction of religious fundamentalists as people who want to use the power of the federal government to force everyone to submit to our religion."

I'm not falling in any trap, I'm speaking from my own experiences. I can appreciate that you specifically are more open to the idea of personal liberty. Sadly, that is not the common theme, not on this forum and not among the evangelicals I know.

Check out the scores from the Republican Liberty Caucus link

3 out of 4 personal freedom votes went against the proposed "libertarian ideal".

The defense of personal freedom in the GOP has atrophied. No, it's even worse than atrophied, the conservative movement has become antagonistic to personal freedom to the point that "civil liberties" has begun to take on a negative connotation to many who call themselves conservatives.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

That gay-bashing church everyone constantly hears about in the news is NOT representative of 99.99% or more of Christians (they aren't even Christian in my book). If you doubt me, attend some Bible-believing churches and see for yourself if they put their faith in government over God.

If you're talking about Fred Phelps, then you're not even dealing with somebody who would identify as Republican. Phelps was a rather large supporter of Democrats. The whole movement he leads is a ruse to turn people away from the so-called "religious right", and their pseudo-identification with Republicans.