Actually, I gave you the 200,000 figure, which you dismissed as coming from Africans, and I gave you the conservative estimate that 1/3rd of the troops were Muslim, which you poo-pooed. Now that I found the book and have given you more specific numbers, you can see that the earlier, rougher figures were also significantly lower than the more detailed evidence suggests.
More specific please. I find it doubtful that they split up neatly at exactly 50%.
Echenberg gives the statistics for the French Sudan. The split is 46-54 active-reserves.
I beg to differ. In your previous post you made it a point to emphasize that Hitler's mahometan SS troops were a tiny fraction of his entire army. You thus contextualized them as a percentage of his total troop strength. The proper comparison with the allies would accordingly use their percentages as well.
Well, earlier you had challenged the troop numbers and having been proven wrong on that you are now turning to troop percentage. Fine. Find the total troop numbers and compare. The Wermacht had about 18,000,000 soldiers and 21,000 of them were Muslims. The French had over 100,000 Muslim troops from West Africa alone. If their total forces reached 90,000,000 troops (larger than the population of European France itself), then you might have a comparison.
And yet you still dabble only in percentages, and then only in certain countries while excluding others. Every time I press you for actual specific troop numbers and actual tasks, unit assignments, and places of deployment you retreat back into vague generalizations and demand I construct whatever present number you purport to be following from the litter trail of percentages, half-sourced claims, and guesstimates you've dropped all over this thread. It strongly suggests that you are trying to hide something, which would not be the first time you did so on this subject.
Contrast that to what I've given you for the 13th Waffen-SS, including the specific recruitment number, the specific muster numbers for 3 different dates in the war, and the specific places they fought.
Truly, that sort of information should not be at all difficult for you to produce:
1. State the total number of colonial FFL troops from 1939-1945.
2. State the total number of FFL troops from 1939-1945 supplied by colony, or in percentage by colony WITH REFERENCE to a precise total figure that those colonies provided collectively.
3. Provide some basic information about the capacity in which these troops served such as unit or division, along with a basic record of the dates and locations of battles in which those units or divisions fought.
You're projecting again. You began the percentage discussion in 263: "Apples and oranges again. 20,000 of approx. 18 million is a tiny fraction of the overall troop strength."
The Wermacht had about 18,000,000 soldiers and 21,000 of them were Muslims.
Okay. Now add the Italian troop strength to that.
Next add any Axis colonial troops that assisted the Axis operations in Africa in any way. Libya, Italian Somalia and Eritrea are among the more notable Axis colonies with muslim populations, so a breakdown of muslims among those troops should be accounted for and added to the 13th Waffen-SS. You will also want to account for all west african troops who fought on the Vichy side of things from 1939-1942, break out the muslim populations for them, and add that to Hitler's muslim total. And you'll want to add in lesser allies of the Reich. This includes the troops of Rashid Ali al-Gillani, who allied with Hitler and attacked the British in the middle east. The British recorded taking 10,000 casualties and prisoners from the Iraqi nazis, and their total army would have been significantly larger.
That should give you two figures: (1) total Atlantic theater axis forces, and (2) muslims in the Atlantic theater axis forces. Remember, this latter figure includes 21,000 from the 13th Waffen-SS + at least 10,000 under Rashid Ali al-Gillani + all muslims who assisted from the Italian colonies + all muslims who assisted from the Vichy colonies.
Next we can turn to the allied side of the Atlantic theater. This means adding up all the atlantic theater troops of the Soviet Union, Great Britain, and the United States. Add to that the Czech, Polish, Greek, Belgian, Dutch, Scandinavian and French troops who fought at the war's beginning or in occupied territories, and their respective European resistance movements. Next you can add the total for all the allied African colonial troops you keep talking about, muslim and non-muslim.
Separate from that, provide a RELIABLE number for the muslims among the colonial african troops.
That too should give you two numbers: (1) total Atlantic theater allied forces, and (2) muslims in Atlantic theater allied forces.
Now for both allies and axis powers, divide figure 2 into figure 1 and multiply the totals by 100. That will give you the percentage of muslims fighting on each side of the war in the atlantic theater. Right now I'm betting that the Axis percentage is larger.