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To: lqclamar; EnochPowellWasRight; Valin; nuconvert; Alter Kaker
This is a classic example of attempting to an impose artificial construct on the debate by intentionally limiting it to an unrepresentative question that is designed to allow only a single desired answer, also unrepresentative.

EPWR's evasion of the question, and lqclamar's subsequent defense, is a classic example of the triumph of emotion over reason and responsibility. Apparently the two of you see no problem with outrageous demands (such as concentration camps for all American Muslims) but cry foul when those who make those demands are held accountable for the demands' inevitable results. If the consequences of such an idea are "irrelevant" then the idea itself is flawed.

If supports concentration camps for all Muslims in America, you necessarily support the internment of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Zalmay Khalilzad, and a host of others who are less prominent but just as patriotic. If you don't want to confront these "uncomfortable" aspects of your demands for summary internment on the sole basis of religious and/or ethnic background, perhaps you should not make such demands.

334 posted on 01/21/2007 11:50:57 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
EPWR's evasion of the question, and lqclamar's subsequent defense, is a classic example of the triumph of emotion over reason and responsibility.

A lame excuse for an equally lame debating tactic. The point is you've tried many a time to set up trap questions with artificial constructs intended to produce a desired answer. When others see through your game and refuse, you get all pissy and start accusing them of avoiding your contrived question. But the fault was in that question all along.

Apparently the two of you see no problem with outrageous demands (such as concentration camps for all American Muslims)

Drop the hyperbole, zimdog. Though I do not speak for him, what I believe EPWR advocated was a U.S. internment program of first generation muslims in the United States similar to the internment policies of WWII for 1st generation Japanese and German citizens. Ever since then you have spun and distorted his views into a copy of the Hitler-style "concentration camp" for Jews, when they were nothing of the sort and more accurately resembled the U.S. policy in WWII that was personally designed by Franklin Roosevelt and found to be constitutional by the Supreme Court in Korematsu v. United States. Like it or not, the precedent is against you on this one and no amount of contrived Hitler analogies will alter that.

339 posted on 01/22/2007 9:26:51 AM PST by lqclamar
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