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To: zimdog
And much the same, if you made vague reference to a book that you claimed was the keystone for all "moderate" Islamic thought and failed to provide any evidence for that claim but instead brusquely informed your reader that it was his duty to find and analyze it, you would fail.

Except that my reference has been anything but vague. I provided you the title and author, and summarized the pertinent tenets. If you wish to challenge those tenets its your burden to familiarize yourself with that book and post a response. You have chosen out of stubbornness not to do so, which makes any further discussion of it with you difficult.

The existence of Muslim Nazi troops is documented almost as well as the existence of Christian Nazi troops.

Back to tu quoque I see. Too bad for your cause that the Nazi leadership tended to be pagan occultists, and its Christian support was almost entirely confined to a few denominations. Unlike the muslims, who Hitler generally embraced wherever he had the opportunity because of their mutual Jew hatred, entire Christian denominations such as Catholics, and several evangelicals were directly persecuted by the Reich.

I asked you how many divisions the Mufti had.

And I have responded that your question is intentionally loaded to produce a deceptive answer. Knowing that Husseini himself was not a general and thus did not personally command any divisions, you intended to corner me into answering in the negative at which point you could dishonestly dismiss the significant mahometan support for the Reich. You only attack my answer now because I did not take your bait, responding instead with an accurate historical representation of the mahometan Waffen-SS division that Husseini and Himmler raised.

PS -- This website (http://www.africultures.com/anglais/Edito%20anglais/Edito25.htm) gives an estimate of 200,000 WW2 troops from West Africa alone.

That site appears to be a letter to the editor of a small West African newspaper. It does not rise to the level of a reliable source, so barring something more specific I remain skeptical. And while you're searching I'll also point out that west african does not necessarily = muslim. The region as a whole large mahometan and Christian populations, as well as dozens of lesser voodoo and animist religions. Any number you produce should accordingly account for these distinctions within the troop population as well, rather than attempting to pass off all african FFL troops as muslims.

170 posted on 01/09/2007 1:18:29 PM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
Except that my reference has been anything but vague. I provided you the title and author, and summarized the pertinent tenets.

Which is what I did as well.

Back to tu quoque I see.

Nothing of the sort. I was merely stating a fact. And whether Hitler himself was a neo-Pagan or not doesn't change the fact that the men on the front lines mostly belonged to Christian and Heretic churches.

Knowing that Husseini himself was not a general and thus did not personally command any divisions, you intended to corner me into answering in the negative at which point you could dishonestly dismiss the significant mahometan support for the Reich.

I asked a straightforward question. You gave a dishonest answer. Don't pretend that you know my intentions in asking the question better than I do.

That site appears to be a letter to the editor of a small West African newspaper. It does not rise to the level of a reliable source, so barring something more specific I remain skeptical.

An interpretation that reveals your intellectual laziness. Africultures is actually a respected international magazine of African culture and history. You can remain as skeptical as you want, but you've demonstrated time and time again that your skepticism is not necessarily rooted in fact.

And while you're searching I'll also point out that west african does not necessarily = muslim. The region as a whole large mahometan and Christian populations, as well as dozens of lesser voodoo and animist religions. Any number you produce should accordingly account for these distinctions within the troop population as well, rather than attempting to pass off all african FFL troops as muslims.

Perhaps if you had read my post...

172 posted on 01/09/2007 1:34:53 PM PST by zimdog
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