IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR FREEPERS WITH FIREARMS!Akins Accelerator(tm) reclassified as NFA by BATFE

Atkins Accelerator (TM) ^ | 13 DEC 06 | dcbryan1

[DCBryan1]

BATFE DECIDES THE AKINS ACCELERATOR™ TO BE A MACHINEGUN

Akins Group Inc. regrets to announce that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has reversed its position and has decided the Akins Accelerator™ to be a machinegun conversion kit, thereby subjecting it to strict regulation under the Gun Control Act (GCA) and National Firearms Act (NFA).

ATF rescinded its previous determination that the Akins Accelerator™ was not a machinegun subject to the GCA or NFA (see http://www.firefaster.com/documentation.html for original documentation).

Attorneys for the Akins Group Inc. are seeking reconsideration by ATF of its new position. In the interim, any sale, transfer, or return of the Akins Accelerator™ must be suspended. Akins Group Inc. will advise further after meeting with ATF.

Akins Group Inc. has received no instruction as to the disposition of units in customer hands. Please refrain from public speculation and emotional responses and allow our Attorneys to advocate for everyone's best interests.

[LibWhacker]

Hmmm... Had to look it up... It was made by Intratec, which went out of business in 2001, according to Wikipedia. Don't know if they were sued out of business or if the federal ban and an unwillingness to diversify is what killed them.

[archy]

There is no evidence there was any political pressure. This was entirely beneath the radar.

Oh, you have no idea.

[archy]

They did it because the Rats took power in Congress, and the Rats will have their back.

Until the Democratic poll-takers and analysts tell the Democrats that it's going to cost them ten million votes in the next election.

[Radio_Silence]

I think it was a combination of two things:
1) Lawsuits (primary reason)
2) Terrible product - quite possibly one of the worst functioning firearms in modern times.

[archy]

Disregard the previous post, should of read further.

Heard of similar types of products, or rather home made conversions.

Something very similar was patented by Max Atkinson, one of the techie gnomes working with Gordo Ingram at Mitch Werbell's Powder Springs, GA Military Armament Corporation facility, builders of the MAC-10 submachinegun. Called the C.R.A.C.K. [C/ounter R/ecoiling A/ction C/ompensates K/ick] the intention was to build a really controlable full-auto 7.62 NATO rifle in the 10-15 pound range. Similar to the *buffered tripods* available for the Spanish ALFA and FN-MAG light machineguns, Atkinson's recoil-absorbing unit was instead built into a rifle stock.

The recoil and muzzle rise from a 5-pound Ruger 10-22 is somewhat less of a problem to control. But there were other possible applications....

[LibWhacker]

...quite possibly one of the worst functioning firearms in modern times...

That bad, huh? I always kind of wanted one. Then when they banned them, I REALLY wanted one and was sorry I hadn't bought one earlier.

[ozzymandus]

ATF contrives a lot of weird rules. You can legally own some machine gun parts, and you can legally own a semi-auto, but if you own both the MG parts and the semi-auto, you are breaking the law even if you don't use the MG parts to convert the semi to a full auto. Plus, most ATF agents are as stupid as the guy with the Glock in his ear, and they're allowed to inpertret the rules however they wish.

[archy]

Is Travis McGee still around???

He's doing okay. And having a swell time, last I heard from Mrs. Travis.

I thought he was still banned???

Far as I know.

To which I still think that situation was blown out of proportion...But that was just my opinion...

Is Tony Snow still Bush's Press Secretary? How'd they do in that last election, upholding that CFR policy on letting Mexicans enter the USA illegally?

[stevie_d_64]

Nice summary...;-)

[archy]

I think it was a combination of two things:
1) Lawsuits (primary reason)
2) Terrible product - quite possibly one of the worst functioning firearms in modern times.

Well, no. The original KG9 design was excellent and reliable, and described in a NRA test report as one of the most accurate handguns they'd ever tested, once you got used to the odd trigger. The early versions lacked sling swivels, since it was supposedly a *pistol* but cobbled-together expedients from plastic cable zip ties to the fitting of QD sling swivels finally convinced the company to upgrade.

But BATF decreed that the trigger group was too easy to rework to full-auto, so a striker-fired replacement version was designed, the KG99, and at the same time the ultra-dependable Swedish K SMG magazine used in a half-dozen other successful designs was dropped for a domestically produced 30- round version. And from there, quality control and materials selection declined.

I'm personally aware of three instances in which individuals have been found dead with jammed or broken KG99, Tec 9, or DC9 *assault pistols* in their hands. But the original design was a sturdy and dependable product, a more compact renditioning of its parent Karl Gustav *Swedish K* submachinegun.

[archy]

I never understood how Reno got away with that. Or the Clinton Admin. too, come to think of it.

They had to kill Vince Foster to get away with it.

Funny how the Secret Service videotapes of the White House parking lot for only that one day supposedly showing Vince Foster getting into his car and driving off disappeared.

Unless, of course, that's not at all how he left.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Monitoring FR gives me plenty of idea. This has been below the horizon even here.

[blackie]

Keep your powder dry and be ever vigilant!!

[redgolum]

The NRA has probably decided (and perhaps wisely) not to get involved in cases like this. To much bad PR for defending a "Machine gun".

[archy]

Monitoring FR gives me plenty of idea. This has been below the horizon even here.

Then you need to get out more. Try here. The Akins Accellerator thread is about halfway down the board.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Your remark has no bearing on my comment. You link is to another site.

Even the NRA didn't send out its usual emails of concern when gun owners' rights are threatened.

Does this thing REALLY increase the rate of fire to 700 per minute? Is that possible?

[archy]

The NRA has probably decided (and perhaps wisely) not to get involved in cases like this. To much bad PR for defending a "Machine gun".

Remember that when S&W introduced the .357 Magnum, NRA Secretary C.B. Lister offered the opinion that it was too powerful for civilian ownership or possession.

The current NRA President is Sandra S. Froman, a Arizona-based attorney who's a military weapons collector and machinegun shooter and collecter. It's possible that her input will help convince the NRA to take a stand on this matter.

However, considering the Bush Administration's stances on no more importation of machinegun parts kits, no more importation of barrels, and now, the AA ruling declaring that having a stock on a semiauto rifle may cause it to be classified as a machinegun it's also possible thatr the Republican Bushbots at NRA will prevail. We'll see.

"If we win, we'll have a Supreme Court that will back us to the hilt. If we win we'll have a president, with at least one of the people that's running, a president where we work out of their office. Unbelievably friendly relations."
-NRA President Kayne Robinson,
Closed meeting of NRA leaders

[ExSoldier]

Don't know if they were sued out of business or if the federal ban and an unwillingness to diversify is what killed them.

I'm pretty sure they were both sued out of business and had some Federal legal issues having to do with marketing the product in Columbia. LOL I also think the company was located somewhere in Florida but I can't be sure.

[archy]

Your remark has no bearing on my comment. You link is to another site.

The link is to discussion of the BATFE ruling, and probable forthcoming court action, based on the previous ruling that it was acceptable, that authorization and approval then being capriciously changed.

Even the NRA didn't send out its usual emails of concern when gun owners' rights are threatened.

Since the reclassification notice only appeared on 11 December 2006, I'm certainly willing to give the NRA a reasonable amount of time beyond three days to formulate a response and either jump on the bandwagon or stand in the way. I am hoping for a helpful stance on their part and I'll happily wait a week or two to see it happen. But I will not hold my breath.

Does this thing REALLY increase the rate of fire to 700 per minute? Is that possible?

It doesn't increase it at all. The cyclic rate of most .22 semiauto rifles is around 1500-2000 rpm, since bolt travel is short and bolt weights are light compared to most other blowback functioning designs. The secondaty recoil springs in the AA stock unit almost certainly reduce the functioning rate of the rifle's action, and magazine feed limitations probably slow it further. We studies such blowback mechanisms very thoroughly at the Naval Weapons Support Center at Crane in Indiana back when inexpensive but reliable weapons suitable for a national resistance movement were considered back in the days of the SolidarnoϾ Movement in Poland, in the early 1980's.

What it does is let the rifle recoil back, then reset it to a position where, if the shooter's finger remains in the same position, the trigger is pulled again once it reaches the forward limit of travel. But see for yourself.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Wow. That appears to be a tremendous increase in the rate of fire.