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Raids in 6 states may be largest ever (ICE & Homeland Security make 'SWIFT" move.. 1,282 arrests)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/13/06 | Jennifer Tanhelm - ap

Posted on 12/13/2006 11:32:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Portnoy

We consumers can punish Swift, I plan to.


21 posted on 12/13/2006 11:53:20 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: Tenacious 1
ICE has its own holding facilities. It's a very expensive program and without a sealed border, it's futile as well.
22 posted on 12/13/2006 11:53:58 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: hubbubhubbub
Why punish Swift? They followed the correct procedure for checking validity of SS numbers. They haven't even been charged with anything. With the information we have so far, Swift is a victim, not a perpetrator.
23 posted on 12/13/2006 11:55:48 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: NormsRevenge
What p*$$e$ me off - BIG TIME - is all this BULLSHIT about "their children".

I say, FUCK their children.

The children canard could be used pertaining to any criminal - from Bank Robber to Rapist, "oh, what about my children. you can't arrest me I have kids". Well sorry Jose, TOO effing BAD!!!

And what about US Citizen's children whose parent's SS & ID was stolen and they get thrown out onto the street due to these maggots committing crimes, claiming benefits, or screwing up the credit under the REAL person's name. Huh, amigo, what about THOSE children!!!

My BP is now through the freaking roof. I'm at the point of ... getting banned. :-)

24 posted on 12/13/2006 11:56:11 AM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Why couldn't those buses keep going all the way to Old Mexico?

The same reason why we will never be able to deport 12 million. A little thing called the Constitution containing all those odd rights clauses.

25 posted on 12/13/2006 11:56:15 AM PST by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I presume these illegals were released as they were last time. But, I still think it is a positive step. It will make employers like this more diligent in ensuring they do not aide and abet identity theft. I'd be willing to bet everyone of these plants had insiders selling falsified or stolen identities.

I would like to see the IRS start cracking down on all the shadow files.
26 posted on 12/13/2006 11:57:31 AM PST by IamConservative (Any man who agrees with you on everything, also lies to others.)
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To: All
Of all the social services entitlements is bail one of them?

Can Swift, et al. expect taxpayer funded benefits to get their "cheap labor" out of jail in time for their next shift?

We all hate government interference as much as businessmen; but I swan, when it comes to social services for "cheap labor" and their families no amount of government interference is too much.

27 posted on 12/13/2006 12:00:12 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: AmusedBystander

They can get their due process right at the border before being pushed across.


28 posted on 12/13/2006 12:00:20 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: NormsRevenge
The company estimated a raid would remove up to 40 percent of its 13,000 workers. Greeley-based Swift describes itself as the world's second-largest meat processor with sales of about $9 billion.

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In a written statement, President and CEO Sam Rovit said the company has never knowingly hired illegal workers and does not condone the practice.

For never knowingly hiring illegals, the company seems to have a remarkably detailed idea of how many there are ...

29 posted on 12/13/2006 12:02:44 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I thought we no longer did catch and release..."

That's what ICE says at its website. But you and I both know that ICE isn't going to hold these people forever and keep building more and more detention facilities with more and more beds. It's a no-brainer that they're going to have to be released sometime.

Illegals believe they have a right to come here and violate our laws. And practically everyone in DC from George Bush to Nancy Pelosi agrees with that. I've said it many times, NR -- meaningful and effective enforcement of border security and immigration law is never going to come from government.

30 posted on 12/13/2006 12:03:54 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: AmusedBystander
I thought the constitution was for American "Citizens".... my bad...hermano..
31 posted on 12/13/2006 12:04:49 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I thought we no longer did catch and release...

We no longer do "catch and release" with "other than Mexicans".

So really, there was virtually no change, 99.9% of illegals are released with a court date that they never show up for.

32 posted on 12/13/2006 12:05:31 PM PST by RJL
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To: DonaldC

A lot of them are indeed contract workers, and the owners of the contract labor companies are illegals. This is big business in Colorado. I know for a fact that a large Denver grocery chain uses illegals supplied through contract labor companies to do stocking and janitorial.

ICE flew a few small plane loads of the Greeley illegals back to Mexico last night, and they are probably already back across the border. The rest probably requested a deportation hearing, so they will be released pending a hearing and simply disappear to reappear with new stolen identification.

This is all smoke and mirrors by the Bush administration to push for a comprehensive immigration bill.

If they were seriously going to do something about the identity theft, please tell me why this was handled by ICE and not by the justice department? Wink, wink.


33 posted on 12/13/2006 12:07:34 PM PST by digerati
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To: Condor51; nopardons
My BP is now through the freaking roof. I'm at the point of ... getting banned. :-)

Try to keep clam. While this is series, it's not hugh.

34 posted on 12/13/2006 12:08:21 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: darkwing104

I have a friend who supports ICE and he'd been telling me to keep my eyes on the news for this for months. They actually expected it to go down in Oct/Nov.

Anyway, I sarcastically asked how many of them would actually be deported and he said most of them.

So fingers crossed...


35 posted on 12/13/2006 12:09:23 PM PST by elc (Slingin' away)
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To: darkwing104

I have a friend who supports ICE and he'd been telling me to keep my eyes on the news for this for months. They actually expected it to go down in Oct/Nov.

Anyway, I sarcastically asked how many of them would actually be deported and he said most of them.

So fingers crossed...


36 posted on 12/13/2006 12:09:31 PM PST by elc (Slingin' away)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Why couldn't those buses keep going all the way to Old Mexico?

The usual procedure for apprehendees is to book and fingerprint them, run a wants/warrants, then transport them to their home countries if they aren't wanted for anything. That's assuming they "volunteer" for repatriation. If they fight it in court and lose, they'll be arrested and imprisoned (as opposed to just getting kicked out again) for criminal entry if they're ever caught in the US again. That's why most Mexicans choose to "volunteer": they know they can just keep trying over and over without risking prison.

37 posted on 12/13/2006 12:09:51 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: NormsRevenge

"btw, I thought we no longer did catch and release... at least at the border anyway.. I could be wrong on that.."

LOL, that's what they want you to think....problem is, when Chertoff made that grand claim, "Our goal is to return every single illegal entrant, no exceptions", and then claiming to have finally ended doing it, he was referring to OTHER THAN MEXICANS...ONLY!

This is just another show and tell. Most will be out with slips for court dates. Besides, if the company was able to 'estimate' 40% of it's 13,000 workforce might be taken (though they deny hiring illegals), I'd say they missed more than a few.


38 posted on 12/13/2006 12:10:27 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Hunter/Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: NormsRevenge
The company [Swift] estimated a raid would remove up to 40 percent of its 13,000 workers.

In a written statement, President and CEO Sam Rovit said the company has never knowingly hired illegal workers and does not condone the practice.

If they "never knowingly hired illegal workers" how did they come to the conclusion that "a raid would remove up to 40 percent" of their 13,000 workers?

39 posted on 12/13/2006 12:11:07 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Dixie Yooper
They can get their due process right at the border before being pushed across

Pushed? We can't be seen as heartless. We must provide free air transportion.


40 posted on 12/13/2006 12:12:01 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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