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Hope grows as boy improves
The Oregonian ^ | 12/13/2006 | ANDY DWORKIN

Posted on 12/13/2006 6:02:50 AM PST by grjr21

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1 posted on 12/13/2006 6:03:00 AM PST by grjr21
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To: grjr21
emotional manipulation alert. no permission is given to love the boy and his parent but hate "harvesting" anything from "aborted fetuses." You'll have to have the intellectual courage to do it on your own.

The media can be first class a tool evil.

The Left shamelessly recruits damaged innocents for its front-lines assualts again.

Hey, I have an idea! Someone ought to write a book about how the Western Left uses terrorist tacticts in psychological, legal, and economic warfare! The true face and aims of terrorism might just start to become clear in that case.

2 posted on 12/13/2006 6:07:03 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: grjr21

My family was discussing the topic of embryonic stem cell therapy a few months ago, and my 16 y.o. son made me prouder of him than I ever have been. My wife has sadly bought the hype on the subject, and our son told her, "If you ever have to choose between letting me die, and embryonic stem cell therapy, I want you to know that I want to die".

My wife got mad at me and accused me of "putting that idea in his head", and I told her that, no, actually he and I had never discussed it; but while we were on the subject, ditto what he said for me.


3 posted on 12/13/2006 6:16:03 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Attn. CBS Evening News chief: "Be a Hero - Save the World From this Cheerleader")
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To: the invisib1e hand

At least the stem cells can be taken from stillborn babies. My husband and I recentl lost a baby at 20 weeks and if we had been asked to donate some of her tissue, we might have been able to consent.

I pray that this boy continues to heal. He is in no way responsible for the abortions of those babies.

Wouldn't it be good if Catholic hospitals and universities devoted a major effort to obtaining embryonic and fetal stem cells licitly?

Mrs VS


4 posted on 12/13/2006 6:26:12 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: SamuraiScot
I just went back and reread the story and here's something I totally missed the first time.

Brain surgery carries its own risks, including seizures, already a serious health threat for Batten children. The whole trial, which will include up to five more children, is designed to prove that the treatment is safe, not that it heals.

What happened to the Hippocratic Oath.They're not Even trying to cure him
6 posted on 12/13/2006 6:39:43 AM PST by grjr21
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To: grjr21
At age 2, Daniel was singing nursery rhymes, talking in complete sentences and counting to 10, Joanna Kerner said. Then his language skills started to slip.

It would be interesting to see when he received vaccines.

7 posted on 12/13/2006 6:57:45 AM PST by aimhigh
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Just WOW!....Kudos to your son!


8 posted on 12/13/2006 7:22:43 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: aimhigh

I'm thinking the same thing.


9 posted on 12/13/2006 7:28:07 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Wouldn't it be good if Catholic hospitals and universities devoted a major effort to obtaining embryonic and fetal stem cells licitly?
Yes, it would be. I also wish they would work with Congress within the next two years to send a bill to the President for federal funding that he could sign in good conscience, and defuse this hot-button topic.
10 posted on 12/13/2006 7:31:20 AM PST by eastsider
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To: VeritatisSplendor

So sorry about your loss and thank you for your compassionate heartfelt wish for the little boy.


11 posted on 12/13/2006 7:38:32 AM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Wouldn't it be good if Catholic hospitals and universities devoted a major effort to obtaining embryonic and fetal stem cells licitly?

Scientifically, it's hard to imagine why. Embryonic stem-cell research hasn't shown much promise, and has produced some notorious medical disasters for test patients. That's why some keep pushing for government support for embryonic research: Private money is staying away, and is going to adult-cell research instead, which has already shown therapeutic successes.

Embryonic-cell research funds are a form of corporate welfare, abetted by a big push from the abortion industry, which wants to supply the bodies. The poltical abortion movement needs embryonic research promoted as widely as possible, because popular support for abortion has been tanking with the widespread use of ultrasound scans.

I don't think Catholic hospitals and universities need to cut deals with Dr. Frankenstein.

12 posted on 12/13/2006 9:14:24 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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"Brain surgery carries its own risks, including seizures, already a serious health threat for Batten children. The whole trial, which will include up to five more children, is designed to prove that the treatment is safe, not that it heals."
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Why is there this need to be 'safe' w/ dying children? I'll bet it is onerous regulations preventing them from going strait for the cure 'safe' or not. :)


13 posted on 12/13/2006 9:56:32 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: traviskicks; grjr21; Coleus; Peach; airborne; Asphalt; Dr. Scarpetta; I'm ALL Right!; ...
Batten Disease Fact Sheet

What happened to the Hippocratic Oath.They're not Even trying to cure him

Phase I in any FDA approved therapeutic trial is to prove that the treatment doesn't cause harm. The boy has a fatal inherited disease.

Why is there this need to be 'safe' w/ dying children? I'll bet it is onerous regulations preventing them from going strait for the cure 'safe' or not. :)

They don't want to sued for a teratoma either. I'd like to see them try umbilical cord blood for some of these fatal inherited diseases.

14 posted on 12/13/2006 8:26:38 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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15 posted on 12/13/2006 8:39:22 PM PST by Coleus (Christmas is part of our Western Civilization and is a U.S. Holiday for all Americans)
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Actually, there have never been any human trials using embryonic stem cells. These are fetal stem cells - the baby was at least 8 weeks along, although there's not much info on the harvest or processing of the brains or the "purification" process.

In contrast, there's quite a bit of research - and reports on the research and methods - showing that neural stem cells are available from the cells harvested from umbilical cords. Wharton's jelly cells have been "easily" (http://stemcells.alphamedpress.org/cgi/content/abstract/24/3/781) induced to transform into neural stem cells and proliferate indefinitely in the lab. In animal models, the cells are being evaluated for use in treating Parkinson's and other neurological disease.

http://stemcells.alphamedpress.org/cgi/content/full/21/1/50


Perhaps, now that "Stem Cells, Inc." researchers believe that they know the specific markers that are to be found on the cells they believe to be useful, they can turn their efforts to more ethical research. And more accessible stem cell sources. Even with 1 out of 3 babies aborted in this country, most are aborted at the embryonic stage (1st trimester), and so there are many, many more opportunities to harvest ethical stem cells from umbilical cords.

And we don't have to kill anyone for it.


16 posted on 12/13/2006 10:49:42 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: neverdem

bump


17 posted on 12/14/2006 5:35:35 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: grjr21
An older article, but it provides a bit of interesting background info.

StemCells, Inc. Announces First Human Neural Stem Cell Transplant, Wednesday November 15, 7:30 am ET Phase I Trial of HuCNS-SC(TM) to Treat Batten Disease Advances

18 posted on 12/14/2006 6:11:46 AM PST by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
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Some background info on StemCells, Inc.
Our mission is to harness the great promise offered by stem cell technology towards the treatment, and possibly cure, of a broad array of intractable human disease for the benefit of patients, family members, physicians and society in general.

StemCells, Inc. is focused on the discovery and development of stem cell therapeutics to treat damage to or degeneration of major organ systems such as the Central Nervous System, Liver and Pancreas.

We are a world leader in the discovery and development of human neural stem cell technology using cells derived from adult (i.e. non-embryonic) brain tissue.

We use a proprietary process to isolate, purify and expand rare candidate stem cells found in adult human tissue.

To date, we have discovered the human neural stem cell as well as a population of rare candidate stem cells found in human liver and pancreas.

We have over forty issued U.S. patents, plus foreign equivalents to some fourteen of our U.S. patents and applications, for a total of over one hundred and seventy individual patents world wide.

Our scientific founders, who are also members of our Scientific Advisory Board, are recognized as world leaders in stem cell biology.


19 posted on 12/14/2006 6:17:28 AM PST by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
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Doctors turn to aborted fetus to save boy's life Experimental procedure transplanted stem cells into 6-year-old's brain
20 posted on 12/14/2006 6:26:39 AM PST by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
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